WADA needs to appeal to the court of arbitration for sport

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This whole jones thing is obviously bs.

We had a situation in Australia recently where ASADA tried to prosecute an entire team that were injected with peds. The investigation came up short but then the world anti doping agency came in over the top at CAS and banned every player for 12 months.

Wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here.
 
Jones is innocent, and its been proved. Yall racist. The only explanation.
 
Stop complaining. The GOAT is back and you should be happy you get the privilege of watching him compete.
 
I don't really get the whole arbitration thing.

Surely USADA are supposed to be the impartial police here, not some additional "neutral" party who just muddies the waters even further.

Surely some random arbitrator is more likely to be corrupted or compromised than the largest Anti-Doping organisation on earth?
 
I don't really get the whole arbitration thing.

Surely USADA are supposed to be the impartial police here, not some additional "neutral" party who just muddies the waters even further.

Surely some random arbitrator is more likely to be corrupted or compromised than the largest Anti-Doping organisation on earth?
the entire process is retarded.

he's had ridiculous T/E ratio before, which simply doesn't happen naturally to an adult professional athlete.

he's been caught for masking agents the first time, which explains him having the T/E ratio of a 70 year old woman. but dick pills are far more likely, lol.

now he's been caught for fucking anabolic steroids... and yet the arbitrator finds that there's no way he could've used them intentionally. because she knows he's such an upstanding citizen.

it's beyond belief. any fighter who isn't a top star would be hit with a career-ending suspension for the same shit, but jones walks. it's the most blatant favoritism.
 
WADA is the brainchild and engine of some of the most corrupt and political people ever to be involved in sport.

Are the Olympics corrupt?

Anything that follows WADA is corrupt to core. <Goldie11>
 
no one cares about some random australian athletes while jones is a valuable asset for the ufc
 
The arbiters can't possibly be impartial when Jon Jones himself is paying their salary. It is so obviously corrupt that a panel that he hired is convinced FOR A SECOND TIME NOW that Jon Jones couldn't be doping intentionally and gives him a slap on the wrist.
 
USADA is the WADA chapter in the US

Dimspace mentioned something in the thread about that Italian chick suspended for 26 years that UFC aren't signatories to WADA code or something like that and aren't obligated to honor their suspensions
 
I don't really get the whole arbitration thing.

Surely USADA are supposed to be the impartial police here, not some additional "neutral" party who just muddies the waters even further.

Surely some random arbitrator is more likely to be corrupted or compromised than the largest Anti-Doping organisation on earth?
They weren't impartial. Then you call the Court of Arbitration for Sport not neutral. The CAS makes sure the water isn't muddled.
The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has grown up and is flourishing after its first quarter century of development. It has lived up to its founders' expectations and is recognized as the world's supreme court of sport. The umbilical cord tied to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) at its formation has been severed. The now independent CAS has established a widely recognized body of arbitral jurisprudence and created a strong reputation that is recognized by athletes, federations, and sporting officials around the globe. The institution has blossomed as one of the world's arbitration adjudication bodies as revealed in its jurisprudence and its history.
https://scholarship.law.marquette.e.../&httpsredir=1&article=1482&context=sportslaw

Yes, it sure when it's hired by the UFC. It's in the arbritator's interest to keep the UFC happy. We saw what happened with the banking institutions in 2008. The people who were in place to oversee the banks were employed by the banks. CAS doesn't have this conflict of interest. It has reprimanded the FIFA and IOC, which are far more powerful than the UFC. They can't do shit against the CAS. That's independence.
 
the entire process is retarded.

he's had ridiculous T/E ratio before, which simply doesn't happen naturally to an adult professional athlete.

he's been caught for masking agents the first time, which explains him having the T/E ratio of a 70 year old woman. but dick pills are far more likely, lol.

now he's been caught for fucking anabolic steroids... and yet the arbitrator finds that there's no way he could've used them intentionally. because she knows he's such an upstanding citizen.

it's beyond belief. any fighter who isn't a top star would be hit with a career-ending suspension for the same shit, but jones walks. it's the most blatant favoritism.
Didn't Cormier also have ridiculously low T/E ratio in their first fight?
 
Dimspace mentioned something in the thread about that Italian chick suspended for 26 years that UFC aren't signatories to WADA code or something like that and aren't obligated to honor their suspensions
That's probably true. As in, I don't see any reason to doubt that for a second. The IOC tried the same thing: "The IOC said it would consider its options after receiving the reasoned decision.[33] In response to the ruling by the CAS, Jim Walden, the attorney representing Dr. Grigory Rodchenkov, stated that the ruling made a 'mockery' of the sanctions against Russia."

In the end the IOC honored their obligations. That's the "corrupt" part about this. The UFC pretends to play by rules it doesn't play by.

It's the charade that is the issue. It's not about the UFC having a policy against PEDs or not. That's their prerogative. If they want to make steroid use mandatory, they can do that too. In practice they can't because that would be suicide. The issue is that they say one thing and do another. To put it even simpler, it's the lies that are the issue.

I don't care if JJ was handed 15 or 150 months. Just don't hand out 15 months to a repeat offender and pretend that you abide by the same standards as other sports organizations.

In 2018, the World Anti-Doping Agency appealed to the CAS after FIFA reduced a suspension of Peruvian national team captain Paolo Guerrero. Guerrero had tested positive for cocaine after a World Cup qualifier against Argentina after ingesting a tea containing the substance. Guerrero was initially suspended for a total of 12 months, but this was later halved by FIFA's appeal committee. WADA in turn appealed to the CAS and they imposed the 14 month ban in May 2018 which will cause Guerrero to miss the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The CAS confirmed the existence of an anti-doping rule violation (ADRV), but also accepted that Guerrero was not trying to enhance his performance by ingesting the substance. The panel had considered that the player did bear some fault or negligence, even if it was not significant, and that he could have taken some measures to prevent him from committing the ADRV.[35]
This is fairly similar to the JJ case, in regard to the reasoning for the short suspension (unintentional, small doze). Add to that that JJ isn't a first-time offender.

The CAS is consistent in its rulings.
In 2001, the court decided the case of Andreea Răducan versus International Olympic Committee. This was a controversial anti-doping case, where it was fairly clear the athlete received cold and flu tablets from her doctor. This resulted in a positive urine test, with the court concluding: "The Panel is aware of the impact its decision will have on a fine, young, elite athlete. It finds, in balancing the interests of Miss Raducan with the commitment of the Olympic Movement to drugfree sport, the Anti-Doping Code must be enforced without compromise.”
 
the entire process is retarded.

he's had ridiculous T/E ratio before, which simply doesn't happen naturally to an adult professional athlete.

he's been caught for masking agents the first time, which explains him having the T/E ratio of a 70 year old woman. but dick pills are far more likely, lol.

now he's been caught for fucking anabolic steroids... and yet the arbitrator finds that there's no way he could've used them intentionally. because she knows he's such an upstanding citizen.

it's beyond belief. any fighter who isn't a top star would be hit with a career-ending suspension for the same shit, but jones walks. it's the most blatant favoritism.
Couldn't agree more.

What are your thoughts on T levels being low for other fighters then? Like DC, Weidman etc. do they also make you raise an eyebrow?
 
This whole jones thing is obviously bs.

We had a situation in Australia recently where ASADA tried to prosecute an entire team that were injected with peds. The investigation came up short but then the world anti doping agency came in over the top at CAS and banned every player for 12 months.

Wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here.

If this is possible. I would like to see it happen.
 
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