voter ID laws are being used for voter suppression

no, people read the OP

normal people still can't fathom how a functioning adult doesn't have a state ID or Driver's License (which are taken in all states, correct?)

Almost guaranteed these people are all poor (by default), and please tell me what percentage of poor people never buy alcohol or tobacco? or scratchers/gamble? not very high....
 
lifelessheap said:
I went to college and there were many illegal aliens. They all had school IDs. Why should such an ID allow you to vote? And a CC permit is extremely trustworthy in comparison.

I want you to do an experiment. Go find a black man or a Latino and ask them if getting an ID is a task that is far too difficult for them.
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It doesnt allow you to vote unless you are a registered voter, and a school ID does not give you the right to become a registered voter. Stop being ignorant and trying to spread the hoax that illegals vote. Stop being a red pill popper and think for yourself. Do you realize that the supreme court has ruled against voter suppression laws that these partisan hacks have used in the past and the SC is conservative!
 
MMAViewer said:
It doesnt allow you to vote unless you are a registered voter, and a school ID does not give you the right to become a registered voter. Stop being ignorant and trying to spread the hoax that illegals vote. Stop being a red pill popper and think for yourself. Do you realize that the supreme court has ruled against voter suppression laws that these partisan hacks have used in the past and the SC is conservative!
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Illegals and non citizens do vote.




You don't need to prove citizenship to register to vote. Its a scam.
 
If you’re not smart nuff to figure out which id you need to vote, maybe you’re not smart nuff to vote
 
So minorities are so poor and so stupid that they can't get a government issued ID, despite this, they are lining up to vote on election day, only to be turned away by the evil republicans. Of all the left-wing excuses for losing elections this is probably the most ridiculous and definitely the most racist.
 
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lifelessheap said:
Illegals and non citizens do vote.




You don't need to prove citizenship to register to vote. Its a scam.
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You so realize this has been debunked don't you, and by Republican judges who have overturned laws aimed at voter suppression.
 
lifelessheap said:
I went to college and there were many illegal aliens. They all had school IDs. Why should such an ID allow you to vote? And a CC permit is extremely trustworthy in comparison.

I want you to do an experiment. Go find a black man or a Latino and ask them if getting an ID is a task that is far too difficult for them.
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I want you to do an experiment. I want you to actually go and read some studies instead of sticking your head up your ass and finding personal anecdotes that back up disproven ideas that you have heard.

Maybe you can start with reading the OP, which you clearly have not done.
 
grimballer said:
If you’re not smart nuff to figure out which id you need to vote, maybe you’re not smart nuff to vote
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let's not act like Trump supporters are smart, lol and let' not forget that had you put an iq test in place to vote that a huge majority of Trump voters would not have passed!
Team Tiki Torch ain't the smartest bunch.
 
ShadBo said:
If ID is required to vote the Government should be required to provide ID for free.
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You can go to any county courthouse where you live of course and get a county I D for free. You need I D to buy beer and board a plane why not for voting. There is no suppression.
 
lifelessheap said:
Voter ID laws work for nearly every European nation, but those same rules are racist for Americans. Got it.


The Bigotry of Low Expectations strikes again. I know who the real racists are.
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It's cool it works in Europe. We should adopt it and all the other things that work in Europe like universal healthcare and firearms restrictions too! I mean it works in Europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Chazz Reinhold said:
You can go to any county courthouse where you live of course and get a county I D for free. You need I D to buy beer and board a plane why not for voting. There is no suppression.
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County ID is not universal.

The voting laws in question often change the requirements such that some of the forms of ID accepted for those other activities no longer work for voting. A few years ago, I had valid ID that let me on planes and let me buy booze, but would not have let me vote in several states. I had other ID that allowed me to vote anyways, but it's very plausible that this might not be the case for a % of the population.

Voting has generally required some form of ID. "Suppression" is from changing what IDs are accepted just before an election, and then making it harder for certain groups to get those IDs. (For example, invalidating IDs primarily used by certain groups, and then,in the counties that vote in a certain direction, closing the offices that would issue the valid IDs.).
 
JosephDredd said:
A long time ago @PrinceOfPain asked me how I could have a problem with voter ID laws, not understanding that they sound like common sense on the the surface, but have only been used to strip Americans of their constitutional right to vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/opinion/roy-moore-alabama-senate-voter-suppression.html



That's not so bad, you say; they just need to get the proper ID to vote. How unreasonable is that? Well, many states are deliberately choosing to accept ID that they know GOP voters are likely to have and that Democrat voters are unlikely to have or rejecting ID that democratic voters are likely to have. For instance, Texas will accept a concealed handgun license to vote, but not a student ID from a post-secondary institution.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/07/minority-voters-election/



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/benjamin-todd-jealous/the-state-of-pennsylvania_b_1821445.html



And it's not just voter ID laws. Some states allow voters to be challenged. The voters then need to either go home and come back again with different ID (and most people don't have the ability to spend 6-8 hours casting a fucking vote -- which is deliberate, because in these same districts voting locations are being shut down to create long line-ups and other unfavourable conditions) or they need to go and find a friend who will sign an affidavit confirming their identity.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ennsylvania-polls-voters-trump-clinton-214297



https://www.americanprogress.org/is...aws-cost-americans-their-voices-at-the-polls/



https://alliedprogress.org/research/somethingspa/



https://www.mediaite.com/online/rep...omplaints-today-are-coming-from-pennsylvania/



https://www.americanprogress.org/is...aws-cost-americans-their-voices-at-the-polls/



https://theintercept.com/2016/10/27/voter-suppression-is-the-real-election-scandal/



Finally, there's the fact that the Republican judge who signed the law into being said it's not being used as they expected, but simply being used to strip voters of their right to vote.

https://www.thenation.com/article/j...-id-laws-constitutional-says-he-got-it-wrong/



And, finally, if you want to simply see a collection of GOP lawmakers openly talking about how they're using these laws to suppress Democrat voters, here are two excellent articles full of their quotes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/...eraging-voter-id-laws-for-political-gain.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-admit-voter-id-laws-are-aimed-at-democratic-voters
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Blacks voted in higher numbers than whites even in places with voter ID laws in 2008/2012.

It seems the only ones getting suppressed are the dead and non-existent.
 
JosephDredd said:
Hmmn. Maybe European voter ID laws aren't expressly written to disenfranchise legal voters? Did you read any portion of the OP at all? Or did you just waddle in here with your head already firmly rammed up your ass?
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You guys get so worked up over this and it' another nothing burger. A student ID isn't a legal for of ID because you don't need citizenship to get one. So accepting one would defeat the whole purpose of making the voter ID laws in the first place.
 
JosephDredd said:
Hmmn. Maybe European voter ID laws aren't expressly written to disenfranchise legal voters? Did you read any portion of the OP at all? Or did you just waddle in here with your head already firmly rammed up your ass?
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I agree with all of the voter ID laws, but I'd take it even one step further.

If you're on welfare, you must pass a drug test to vote.

You don't deserve the right to vote if you live off of tax payers & do drugs
 
Lmfao. Dumb motherfuckers need to be eliminated from the gene pool. This shit is more embarrassing by the minute
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Politicians are scumbags who'll do shady shit to win. Glad I'm not one of these losers who can't figure out how to maintain a proper ID in a country that so very often requires it for various things.
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apparently for some it's a supernatural pursuit that never bears fruit. It's not difficult. At All.
 
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