Venezuela, The Socialist Dystopia, v2: Angry Brazilian border town drive out Venezuelan immigrants

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  1. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    You know what's the most fucked up thing? A large part of this refugees exodus probably voted for Maduro in the first place, and now they are running away from the disaster that they unleashed, instead of actually doing something about it.

    Unfortunately, there's no way for the countries taking in refugees to verify who's a Chavista and who are the real victims.
     
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    everyone wants a free lunch but things fall when your unable to take other people's money to fund these free things. Its so frustrating to see a society head towards the same direction when things have been getting worse for so long.
     
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    That is my biggest frustration with any democratic system when peopls litteraly vote to thrash democracy.
     
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    You can litteraly see Simon Bolivar in the background getting hungry
     
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  5. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    The Crisis Next Door
    Mass exodus of desperate Venezuelans is overwhelming neighboring countries
    Story by Anthony Faiola , Photos by Ivan Valencia | March 2, 2018

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...torn-country-en-masse/?utm_term=.1fb813fb26da
     
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    LogicalInsanity Gold Belt

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  7. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    As far as I know, President Trump has never bought a barrel of Venezuelan heavy crude. Nor does any of his companies. Nor does the U.S government.

    Here is the full list of all the U.S refineries that imported heavy crude from Venezuela, all of which are private corporations:

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    What you are really suggesting is that President Trump should ban all the private companies in the United States - such as those listed above - from doing business with an entire sector of another country. That is in fact the very definition of economic sanction, particularly of the oil embargo variety.

    And I would welcome it, while calling it exactly what it is.


    U.S. considering broad oil sanctions on Venezuela
    Matt Spetalnick, Alexandra Ulmer, Patricia Zengerle | February 28, 2018

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    President Nicolas Maduro gestures as he registers his candidacy for re-election at the National Electoral Council (CNE) headquarters in Caracas, Venezuela February 27, 2018.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...l-sanctions-on-venezuela-source-idUSKCN1GD3LR
     
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    An embargo implies the US goes out of its way to force others to not buy and trade with a particular country.

    Im talking more about just preventing US companies to import Venezuelan oil, you dont even need to apply a sanction through congress, just put an import tariff like its done with Chinese steel.
     
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    Armbars Filthy maggot

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    What a thread, best read around here in a long time.
     
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  10. lifelessheap

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    How are the gun rights there? Would things be different if they had something like the Second Amendment?
     
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    Yes I think it would be much equal.

    Because rightnow only the loyalist have guns
     
  12. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    Venezuela’s collapse causes humanitarian and security crisis for Colombia
    By Mark L. Schneider | March 05, 2018

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    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article203654959.html
     
  13. Arkain2K

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    Venezuela opposition calls for protest against presidential vote
    March 8, 2018


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...otest-against-presidential-vote-idUSKCN1GK2Y7
     
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    Seaside Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores Yellow Card

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    It makes you think what maduro thinks will happen to him. like he has fucked up so bad and have been brutal that he cannot just wash it away. He is not a stalin or mao where he the world world doesnt know what he is doing and his own people dont either and he has nothing good to point to. Does he think he can just live quitely after power or what? or maybe he can
     
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  16. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    To be honest, with all these dead children in Venezuela, I'm actually surprised no angry and dispaired fathers even attempted to off Maduro yet when he's constantly parading around the country.

    For a region that used to dominate headlines for People's Revolutions not long ago, the reaction from the everyday Venezuelans to this national calamity is incredibly relaxed, as if they have already accepted the same fate as the North Koreans.
     
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    i was just in colombia. i met 3 different venezuelans and each of them in the course of conversation said they wish the u.s would invade their country and take it over to set up a new government. not sure if this fits in here at all, just thought it was crazy to actually hear people say they want to be invaded, but you can certainly understand it.

    of course once we did, people would shit all over us
     
  18. Fanu

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    well yeah, you guys (US) are only good at invading (but you've been failing even at that recently, considering whats going on in Syria)
    after you invade someone you leave the country in worse state than it was hence everyone shitting on US
     
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    Yep. Everyone loves the "invade and overthrow" part.

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    The "set up a new government" part...not so much.
     
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  20. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    Venezuelans voluntarily voted for Maduro and put him in power, knowing exactly who he is and what they are getting, despite all the warnings.

    Venezuelans should be the ones fighting to get rid of him if they suddenly change their mind about the socialist dystopia that they have chosen.

    And if Venezuelans don't think the Democracy that they so carelessly threw away is worth fighting for, and kept waiting for somebody else to hand it to them on a silver plater, then they sure as hell don't deserve it.
     
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