US Officially Ends Its Support for "Moderate" Syrian Rebels

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What do you think? Cucking to Russia or the right move to stop supplying Al-Qaeda affliates?

The Trump administration has decided to halt the CIA's covert programme to equip and train certain rebel groups fighting the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, two US officials said, a move sought by Assad ally Russia.

The Washington Post was first to report the programme's suspension on Wednesday.

The US decision, said one of the officials, is part of an effort by the administration to improve relations with Russia, which along with Iranian-supported groups has largely succeeded in preserving Assad's government in the six-year-civil war.

The CIA programme began in 2013 as part of efforts by the administration of then-President Barack Obama to overthrow Assad, but produced little success, said the officials, both of whom are familiar with the programme and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...-anti-assad-syria-rebels-170719221850588.html
 
Good, it was a shameful act to support these terrorists. It is not cucking, the USA is now much more firmly entrench into Syria through the SDF than it was through these terrorists that despised americans and didn't collaborate when asked to. When a group of SOF tried to embed with the CIA supported "moderate" rebels they got expelled and almost got into a firefight. That's the kind of people Obama was supporting in Syria.
 
I can't wait for the people who to this day blame the Middle East solely on Bush to be really really upset about this.


We should have never supported them in the first place
 
Trump was saying he'd do this early in his campaign, before all the Russia hysteria.
 
This is a good thing.

There is alot of videos on the subject one could post. I like this one because its a democrat making the points, and as such hopefully its not just brushed aside. The relevant info is @ 3:20 to the end, though I would suggest watching the video in its entirety.
Paints a pretty different picture then what we are usually told imo.
 
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What do you think? Cucking to Russia or the right move to stop supplying Al-Qaeda affliates?



http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...-anti-assad-syria-rebels-170719221850588.html
Tough to criticize one way or the other. Trump doesn't want to arm the next generation of extremists that we'll likely end up fighting over there. At the same time, he has set himself (and the USA) in opposition to Assad, continuing a tradition held by the past two administrations, at least, so it's not like we'll be installing a secular strongman on his coattails. Without our help, the rebels will slowly be ground into the dust by Assad.

No good answers.
 
This is great imo. I can understand the people who think this is a bad move though.
 
Good, it was a shameful act to support these terrorists. It is not cucking, the USA is now much more firmly entrench into Syria through the SDF than it was through these terrorists that despised americans and didn't collaborate when asked to. When a group of SOF tried to embed with the CIA supported "moderate" rebels they got expelled and almost got into a firefight. That's the kind of people Obama was supporting in Syria.

Obama was pressured into it. A president can only fend off soo much pressure. He didn't attack Assad despite pressure from Turkey, Gulf Arabs, France and the interventionists at home (McCain, Graham, Hillary) pushing him to do so. Arming the rebels was a little bit of give on his part.
 
This support was rather symbolic, but I think it's a good move.

I think times are changing for the best and it's about time to recognise Russia and Iran as partners in the Midde East.

Not to mention that an Assad is preferable to Djihadi groups running around beheading people.

But but but human rights ? Fuck you just look at what is going on in "allied" countries in the Golf.

Let Israel and the Saudis cry.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...-anti-assad-syria-rebels-170719221850588.html
 
Is this also a good move ?

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/us-iran-still-top-state-terror-sponsor-global-attacks-down/

Iran continues to be the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism, the Trump administration said Wednesday in a new report

some grade A bullshit to single out Iran

IMO Top 3 worlds leading state sponsors of terrorism are:

1) USA
2) Saudi Arabia
3) its between Israel/Trukey/Iran/Kuwait/Bahrein/UAE/Iraq/Palestine/Afghanistan

This is also symbolic horseshit. They need to give the appearance of continuously going after Iran otherwise they will get the Zionist lobby up their ass.

There is a major difference between :

- Iran-backed Hamas / Hezbollah - type terrorism (which by most account is armed resistance)......and:

- Sunni fanatism/Djihad such as ISIS / Al Qaeda.

Israel succeeded in getting Hezbollah recognised as a terrorist group around 2000, and since then all lines are blurred, but this is propaganda.

Make no mistake, Hezbollah is not sponsoring terrorist acts in european capitals.
 
Trump was saying he'd do this early in his campaign, before all the Russia hysteria.
Yeah, it's almost like he knew what he was supposed to do in this situation, as opposed to his other foreign policy ideas, which are just soup. Wonder why...
 
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Yeah, it's almost like he knew what he was supposed to do in this situation, as opposed to his other foreign policy ideas, which are just soup. Wonder why...

Because you have never bothered to review his campaign platform, have no sincere interest in politics and were dragged into your first election cycle by the celebrity factor and to blow off some youth angst. That's the factual answer.

You should review his campaign platform. I don't mean pussy-grabbing articles. Stop consuming the media equivalent to McDonalds.

You should also review the history of Russo-American spying and election interference, which has been a constant uninterrupted phenomenon for at least several decades. It got out of control during the height of the Cold War when high-profile Democrats like Ted Kennedy colluded to preserve Soviet nuclear proliferation and blame it on the president. Things have been reigned in a lot since then and its quite remarkable how clean Trumps own record is in regards to controversial associates/foreign interests despite his extensive international business dealings & powerful enemies -- all under extreme scrutiny far exceeding the paranoia of "McCarthyism".

You are being played for a fool by thinking anything unprecedented has occurred this election cycle. It's merely the aforementioned media taking advantage of the large amount of political novices who have suddenly been thrust into a schismatic environment.
 
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This should put an end to the posters who refused to believe that the U.S. was arming terrorist groups in Syria.
 
Putin celebrates another easy lay up

And Netanyahu and the Saudis don't, for once.

I certainly don't trust them more than Putin.

If you look at the progression of what is happening in the ME, it is painfully obvious that it is time for the West to diversify its alliances.
 
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