Discussion in 'The War Room' started by luckyshot, Mar 1, 2018.
Actually he is saying it will only take about 2.5 years to fire all the bad teachers he had.
Except not every state needs to have a theater or a horticulture industry. Every state has to have schools and teachers in those schools.
You're comparing jobs that don't need to exist in a given area to jobs that have to exist everywhere as access to education is a right.
I'm not sure why you continue to ignore that aspect of the conversation.
Horrible working conditions are all relative to the job . . . of course a coal miner has it worse than a teacher.
I didn't say the surrounding states had anything to do with my home state's financial situation . . .
Europe is being flooding with economic migrants and refugees that are beyond school age. Look at the pictures. It isn't student aged men invading. It is adult males invading.
And they come for welfare, not schooling.
Nah, they’re teachers year round.
For some reason people get mad if teachers snort cocaine off a stripper... even in the summer.
I'm speaking more of the fact that the vid talks about "other professionals" in the workforce and talks about having a degree and taking continuing education credits (an RTRP takes more continuing ed credits/yr and avgs around $15/hr.)
And I brought up horticulture and theater because some sap dropped 60-80k to get degrees in those fields so that they could get a job making 30k/yr. that you don't need a degree to do - not a good ROI compared to the student that chose finance or chemical engineering because he knew he'd need to support his family after college.
Let me clear something up - I think teachers deserve a lot and we should pay them more, but WV is a poor state and if you wanted to make money then you wouldn't have went into teaching or you would have applied for a job in Montana.
Then why would you compare teacher salaries in surrounding states?:
Why see it like that instead of seeing it as raising her pay to be comparable to the surrounding states? - spamking
Yes, Canada's minorities are much better educated, no question about that. But they're still minorities, so the problem isn't "ethnic diversity", it's education and poverty.
And, as always, the age-old explanation between high-achieving Asian immigrants vs low-achieving Latino immigrants misses the point. The "cultural focus" angle is the effect, not the cause.
What is the cause? Educational attainment upon arrival. Asian immigrants are MUCH better educated than Latinos when they arrive in the US. Naturally, their children follow the same path. Latinos have a much steeper hill to climb than Asians.
In fact, if you look at educational attainment from one generation to the next, Latinos actually improve at higher rates than Asians
Going from low 10s to low 20s, is a 50% increase. Asians "only" improve about 10% Yes, big improvements are easier when your bottom line is really low, but starting that far at the bottom obviously has tons of barriers in itself.
Generally public workers are not allowed to strike via the negotiated contract, which is stupid in my opinion. I'll never understand why non 1% workers are more in favor of siding with big corporations who's only m.o. is their bottom line. Their workers are treated as replaceable cogs. In the long run it is bad for business to have disengaged workers but all the corporate fraudsters care about is quarterly profits. Get on team worker you fools!
It's absolutely pathetic to learn that many teachers make <$40k/year around the country. Teaching should be one of the most fundamentally strong middle class jobs where employees are well taken care of.
I would gladly pay a higher tax to take care of our teachers. It's absurd how little they're paid considering the massive impact they have on our children's(and the country's) future.
A compromise could be made to put a freeze on district employees/administration salaries while substantially increasing(like 10-15% minimum across the board) teaching salaries.
You took my comparison of salaries to equal a comparison of state financial status?
Not what it was intended to be . . .
Teachers in Oklahoma are regularly leaving the state to continue their teaching careers at a high pay rate in the surrounding states . . . mainly Texas. So, I mentioned comparing teacher salaries of surrounding states. Which is regularly done whenever this issue rears it's ugly head every 5-10 years.
Not me. Strippers need learning too
Update: THIS IS HOW SHIT GETS DONE
Oklahoma Teachers' Union Sets Strike Date for April 2 After Teacher Outcry
as someone who lives and works in wv im very happy for the teachers. hopefully this can give a little spark to the education system around here.
the Oklahoma strike is on now despite some recent legislation.
can anyone from Oklahoma give a local perspective?
"fiscal responsibility" aint so easy when you cant run daddy governments infinite credit card and you actually need to balance your budgets.
Arizona Governor Agrees to 20% Raise for
Note that the Arizona teachers went on strike anyways because the 20% would be pushed back two fiscal years, they already have been without a raise for a decade, and it would come from other parts of the education budget that would fuck them over.
Like seeing the wins for teachers unions here. Hoping another effect is that other underpaid states give them some moderate raises to avoid the striking in the first place
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