UFN 134 Shogun vs Smith

I’m on Stasiak as a medium to large bet. Don’t see why he isn’t a favorite over the random Chinese guy.

Stasiak has a crafty stand up game, although he leaves his hands down a lot he’s pretty tricky with his stance switching.

He’s probably got the better BJJ off his back as well as wrestling game. He’s got a nice snatch single leg.

I guess I could only go off the little I’ve seen of Liu but I’m not impressed. I can see them scrambling around on the mat and Stasiak snatching up a sub.

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On another note, anyone from New York or been to NY? I’m currently here on business but I have a 2 full days & a night to explore the city.
 
Rebel_LioN said:
I’m on Stasiak as a medium to large bet. Don’t see why he isn’t a favorite over the random Chinese guy.

Stasiak has a crafty stand up game, although he leaves his hands down a lot he’s pretty tricky with his stance switching.

He’s probably got the better BJJ off his back as well as wrestling game. He’s got a nice snatch single leg.

I guess I could only go off the little I’ve seen of Liu but I’m not impressed. I can see them scrambling around on the mat and Stasiak snatching up a sub.

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On another note, anyone from New York or been to NY? I’m currently here on business but I have a 2 full days & a night to explore the city.
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I'm going back and forth on this fight since ML is not juiced.

I think the beginning of the fight plays out on the fight since Stasiak seems to love his stand up now but doesn't it concern you that when Stasiak goes southpaw, both hands are at his waist and the two things Liu does throw is the overhand right and left hook and guys just walk through his punches because he has no pop in his hands hence why he gets backed up. He hit Kelleher and Munhoz with uppercuts and they walked right through it. If he does knockout Liu, it's a spinning backfist but those are hard to land. Liu is going to be pressing forward, just that his technique isn't there but the power is.

You might be right about the grappling and scrambles since it's hard to gauge Liu's grappling based off his competition.
 
Ukram said:
Any german and polish to translate

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-Weight is fine
-Preperation was very hard, mainly the time where he coudlnt train at his best because of injuries.
-Training at WCA ( imo the best polish camp )
-He was training among others with Damian Janikowski (best polish wrestler, olimpic wrestler)
-He watched last 3 fights of Meek and analysed
-He likes rare steakes :)
-weights around 205lbs off camp, but feels good fighting in 170 lbs
-doesnt need a sport psychologist
 
1u Over 1,5 Rounds Glover Teixeira x Corey Anderson @1.61

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + Marcin Tybura ML @1.79

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + DGTD Jeremy Kimball x Darko Stosic @1.75 (Or Darko Stosic ML that get same odd)

1u Over 1,5 Rounds Davey Grant x Manny Bermudez @1.61

1u Over 1,5 Rounds na luta Marcin Tybura x Stefan Struve @1.62

1/4 Mauricio Rua by Ko/Tko/DQ ou submissão @4.50 (Im Shogun fan)

Thoughts????
 
lefontes said:
1u Over 1,5 Rounds Glover Teixeira x Corey Anderson @1.61

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + Marcin Tybura ML @1.79

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + DGTD Jeremy Kimball x Darko Stosic @1.75 (Or Darko Stosic ML that get same odd)

1u Over 1,5 Rounds Davey Grant x Manny Bermudez @1.61

1u Over 1,5 Rounds na luta Marcin Tybura x Stefan Struve @1.62

1/4 Mauricio Rua by Ko/Tko/DQ ou submissão @4.50 (Im Shogun fan)

Thoughts????
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Is DGTD does go the distance?
 
What is the best site for props? I was kicked out of 5dimes lol and I use bovada and sportsbook.ag,,but looking for other good US books
 
matthew55 said:
What is the best site for props? I was kicked out of 5dimes lol and I use bovada and sportsbook.ag,,but looking for other good US books
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why were you kicked off 5d?
 
lefontes said:
1u Over 1,5 Rounds Glover Teixeira x Corey Anderson @1.61

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + Marcin Tybura ML @1.79

1u DGTD Mauricio Rua x Anthony Smith + DGTD Jeremy Kimball x Darko Stosic @1.75 (Or Darko Stosic ML that get same odd)

1u Over 1,5 Rounds Davey Grant x Manny Bermudez @1.61

1u Over 1,5 Rounds na luta Marcin Tybura x Stefan Struve @1.62

1/4 Mauricio Rua by Ko/Tko/DQ ou submissão @4.50 (Im Shogun fan)

Thoughts????
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GTD probably makes more sense with Grant/Bermudez. Subs overwhelmingly more likely too occur in the first when both guys are dry, so the first 1.5 rounds is where 90% of the finish risk is.
 
Rebel_LioN said:
I’m on Stasiak as a medium to large bet. Don’t see why he isn’t a favorite over the random Chinese guy.

Stasiak has a crafty stand up game, although he leaves his hands down a lot he’s pretty tricky with his stance switching.

He’s probably got the better BJJ off his back as well as wrestling game. He’s got a nice snatch single leg.

I guess I could only go off the little I’ve seen of Liu but I’m not impressed. I can see them scrambling around on the mat and Stasiak snatching up a sub.

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On another note, anyone from New York or been to NY? I’m currently here on business but I have a 2 full days & a night to explore the city.
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I'm in complete agreement on Stasiak. Line makes zero sense.
 
MT6ix said:
I'm going back and forth on this fight since ML is not juiced.

I think the beginning of the fight plays out on the fight since Stasiak seems to love his stand up now but doesn't it concern you that when Stasiak goes southpaw, both hands are at his waist and the two things Liu does throw is the overhand right and left hook and guys just walk through his punches because he has no pop in his hands hence why he gets backed up. He hit Kelleher and Munhoz with uppercuts and they walked right through it. If he does knockout Liu, it's a spinning backfist but those are hard to land. Liu is going to be pressing forward, just that his technique isn't there but the power is.

You might be right about the grappling and scrambles since it's hard to gauge Liu's grappling based off his competition.
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Stasiak isn’t a world beater so of course he’s gonna have holes. Sure the punch is there but can this guy even execute against a UFC veteran? Even Muhnoz didn’t finish him and it took a 3 round brawl against another vet in Kelleher.

All that is moot point as well if the guy gets taken down.

Maybe it’s lazy capping on my part but I can’t find much recent stuff on Liu and from what I’ve seen from old YouTube clips, he ain’t that good.

The guy has no social media or wiki or information anywhere on him. Is there something I don’t know?

EndlessCritic said:
I'm in complete agreement on Stasiak. Line makes zero sense.
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Should be a good start to the card with a non-juiced line.
 
Rebel_LioN said:
Maybe it’s lazy capping on my part but I can’t find much recent stuff on Liu and from what I’ve seen from old YouTube clips, he ain’t that good.

The guy has no social media or wiki or information anywhere on him. Is there something I don’t know?
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Sadistic saw Liu's resent fights and is staying off the Stasiak line. Check out his posts on this thread.
 
EndlessCritic said:
glover down to -155? is this real life?
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Even though Anderson isn't anything special, doesn't Glovers age give you pause?

I havent pulled the trigger on this fight myself yet. You feeling confident here?
 
everybody made weight



 
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arrelione said:
Even though Anderson isn't anything special, doesn't Glovers age give you pause?

I havent pulled the trigger on this fight myself yet. You feeling confident here?
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Glover's been getting disrespected forever. Dog to OSP. Dog to Cirkunov. Only -200 against Cannonier.

Not saying Glover's a lock, but I cap him closer to -200 here.
 
EndlessCritic said:
Glover's been getting disrespected forever. Dog to OSP. Dog to Cirkunov. Only -200 against Cannonier.

Not saying Glover's a lock, but I cap him closer to -200 here.
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I was on Glover in all three of those fights. Going Anderson here, I think he's really developed his game and Glover's just gotten slower and slower. Even the Misha fight was kinda weird, with Glover looking silly on the feet and then Misha looking completely terrible off his back.
 
damn did not expect the size difference between Nas vs Marc UFC have them listed as the same height but its not even close =/
 
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