UFN 126 - Cowboy vs Medeiros - Austin

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What are your thoughts on Piechota's athleticism? From what I remember the Vivisection guys were hyping his athleticism up before his debut but now they are saying that he is not very athletic and that Williams should have a significant edge there.
 
What are your thoughts on Piechota's athleticism? From what I remember the Vivisection guys were hyping his athleticism up before his debut but now they are saying that he is not very athletic and that Williams should have a significant edge there.

Piechota athleticism is average, he definitely thrives off of skill + IQ
 
5/5 actually. But can you trust a bearded Cerrone with your money?

Oh missed one out. Yeah, bald Cerrone is the best Cerrone. Cerrone with hair is not as good, no idea how a bearded cerrone will do though.
 
Piechota athleticism is average, he definitely thrives off of skill + IQ

Depends on your definition of "athleticism". He's functionally really strong, he's shown that in his grappling. I tend to think of that as part of athleticism.

He's not the fastest guy though, that much is true.
 
The UFC literally gives no fucks towards their european fans with this sunday cards.

Yeah I'm with EZ, I'm in the central US time zone and I'm not really a fan. Granted, it's not a huge deal as I can still be in bed by midnight or so and get close to a normal night's sleep. But I usually like to enjoy some cocktails and I need to dial that back on a Sunday night. At least they do these Sunday cards pretty rarely I guess...
 
cerrone even money

if cerrones chin is not cracked this line is bad. the broken nose couldve very well been the reason for the till loss
 
Man at least does some research, not saying Yancy will sub Cerrone but he has shown a tendency to try to jump a sub when he hurts an opponent. Yancy def wont let you off easy if you fuck up, he tough and in all likelihood has 5 rounds to just hurt Cerrone. Think first time he has Cerrone in danger he will fnish him.

So I was the one saying I'd played Yancy KO/TKO and Yancy rd 1 as my hedges to my Cerrone ML play. And @lifeisgood12345 replied that Yancy sub is in play (his argument the same as yours in that if Yancy rocks him he may go for the sub). So I guess maybe your post is directed at me? (Not sure, it's a little confusing) I did acknowledge that's a possibility (Yancy rocking then subbing Cerrone), but is very unlikely to happen. To me, the extra payout for Yancy KO (I got it at +235) vs his itd line ( was +190ish at the time I think) is worth the risk of a Yancy sub. Cerrone has 42 pro fights, and one loss by sub (gulliotine by Bendo in 2010).

Yancy is tough, but he hasn't faced anyone at Cerrone's level yet has he? And if Yancy gets rocked (which seems to happen often, although he recovers well), Cerrone is actually a lot better at transitioning from hurting someone to locking up a sub. I would say Cerrone sub is far more likely than Yancy sub (which odds agree with, +440 vs +900).

I do agree that if Yancy really hurts Cowboy he's likely to finish. That's one thing about Cerrone, he hasn't shown (esp lately) the ability to recover well after being hurt. Historically in his career it has taken a lot to actually hurt him in the first place, but he's not a guy who's recovered well once he is hurt.
 
Oh missed one out. Yeah, bald Cerrone is the best Cerrone. Cerrone with hair is not as good, no idea how a bearded cerrone will do though.
Maybe he's going to extremes to protect his chin? Trying out the old Roy Nelson theory.

I'm just joking I think Cerrone should be a slight favorite, but something feels a little off when a 35 year old sddenly starts changing up his look fight by fight after looking the same his whole career almost
 
Some other lines I'm gonna play:

Trinaldo +3.5 pts at -120. If you don't think Vick stops Trinaldo and that this fight will be close (I do), this is a nice line. I have other Trinaldo action, but the concern is of course there that Vick gets some hometown love in a really close fight. I have this feeling all of us on Trin are gonna end up pissed when Vick gets a split dec win in a fight we think he lost. Guess I'm (sort of) guarding against that scenario with this bet. If Trin wins, well, I'll be happy anyway by winning this one plus my other bets.

Tybura/BB u1.0 at +207. It's a HW fight. BB tends to come out aggressively. It's not hard to envision either him landing one of those monster haymakers early, or getting Tybura down and mashing his face in. It's also easy to envision Tybura hitting Lewis with a counter or a head kick and ending his night quickly. At over 2-1, I think there's some value here.

Burkman NSC +310 and/or Not Morono itd -105. Maybe Burkman is just shot. Maybe. But as was mentioned earlier itt, he isn't trying to cut to 155 anymore. And since Morono has been fighting UFC level competition over his last 5 fights, he's finished none of them.
 
What are your thoughts on Piechota's athleticism? From what I remember the Vivisection guys were hyping his athleticism up before his debut but now they are saying that he is not very athletic and that Williams should have a significant edge there.

I think hes more athletic than williams
 
finally got around to rewatching williams' tuf fights etc. man he brings it. broke bojan in a war (sadly mostly just highlights).. and amazing fight w/lima.

feel pretty confident that he's gonna go hard w/piechota. i feel like he's gonna make it close IF it goes to decision, so +3.5 +160 worth it.. but the bigger play for me: DNGD. played it -170 -175, -185, etc. couple units or so. piechota rd3 +1xxx worth a stab, too, cause williams has trouble pacing himself
 
event subs.. f it..
O3.5 & up

not a single fight would i be SHOCKED to see a sub tonight
 
Adding to Burkman/Morono goes distance at +115, another .6u.

Sorry, Morono hasn't finished anyone in his 5 UFC fights. If Burkman is done and folds up, so be it. If Burkman somehow finishes Morono, my Burkman NSC at +310 cashes. I'm just not buying that at 170 Morono is gonna go in and steamroll Burkman here.
 
You all just gotta move to the Canadian mountain time zone! Main events starts at 8 pm. Just so happens it's a long weekend here as well. And it's only -18C today!
 
event subs.. f it..
O3.5 & up

not a single fight would i be SHOCKED to see a sub tonight

Took it too, though I'd be pretty stunned if Alves/Millender ended in a sub. Otherwise though, yeah, I'm with you.
 
sarah moras might have the worst stats in the game. 1.1 strikes landed per minute. 0.46 takedown per 15 (not good for a ground fighter with no striking). 9.09% takedown accuracy.
 
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