UFC shot itself in the foot.

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  1. emema Green Belt

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    First of all, good job Fertitas on selling this thing and bailing. USADA was the worst decision UFC ever made. And what was the reasoning? To "clean up the sport" and legitamize it. What a joke. Theres nothing legitimate about all these silly interim belts and undeserved title shots. On top of that, you still have the problem of fighters almost dying to make weight and fights being pulled days before the card.
    What a fuckin mess. Its hard being a fan nowadays.

    /end rant
     
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  2. DarkneT If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm

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    What a new and truly original perspective on things
     
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    Jones is GOAT
    Jones is GOAT


    MMA sucks without him
     
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  5. TheRuthlessOne Violence Belt

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    It's still the best decision on the long term. The UFC doesn't need Jones anyway, he never was a mainstream star and they'll easily survive without him.
     
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  7. TheRuthlessOne Violence Belt

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    I'd go as far as saying UFC doesn't need any single fighter

    Conor
    GSP
    Silva

    All these men can be replaced by some other asshole
     
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  8. Hotora86 火虎 空手道

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    I'd like to understand the true reasoning behind their decision to involve USADA.
    What if they didn't do it? Would that hurt their business in the long run?
     
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    Idk USADA evens out the playing field.

    Also Jones is only one guy. In a couple years we'll all be talking about some new fighters that would have popped up on the scene by then.
     
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    It was the HBO special about PEDs. Showed how there were a huge number of TST TUEs compared to other sports. It painted the whole sport in a horrible light at the time. The UFC had to get off their ass and do something.
     
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  11. whooty Blue Belt

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    Cleaning up the sport takes time, a lot of the guys were already there pre=usada, meaning they've probably roided in the past. Once you've used the stuff extensively it's hard to perform without, because you're used to way quicker recovery times and results. So they try to find new ways to cheat.

    In the long run it'll do a lot to legitimize the sport AND protect the fighters from future damage and limp dicks for the rest of their retired life.
     
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    I don't think the public would mind at all. MMA has been "painted in a horrible light" from the very start. It's now quite respectable. Other than facing gov sanctions or bans of some sort, I don't see how some HBO special could really hurt the UFC.
     
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  13. MaZgOtX White Belt

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    In summary:
    -> Sport with PEDs = freak show ala WWE. Good entertainment IF you want to buy it but no real emotional investment or attachment to the sport itself.
    -> Sport without PEDs = legitimate sport, parents want to get their kids into it, talent pool expands, people watch because they love the sport and are invested in it/dream of being a fighter, rather than just watching it for the "shallow" aspect of a spectacle.

    I guess the summary probably catches most of the argument but in my view the UFC has to be seen as legitimate sport that mums and dads WANT to get their kids into. Yes, it's always going to be a violent sport, but I would argue that american football is equally violent given the ferocity of some of the collisions. Some parents are comfortable with their kids getting hurt and some are not. If the UFC can legitimize itself and if it can get a groundswell of support as a legitimate sport that then increases the talent pool which in itself will increase the entertainment value. Ensuring the sport is properly regulated is just one step on this journey.
     
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    It is to look more professional to the investors and business partners. Most of the viewers have a "don't ask, don't tell" stance on PED, but it's different when you try to get contracts worth several hundred millions.
     
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  15. UL NOW IS WAR!

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    The Fertittas were getting ready to sell the ufc years ago before the deal.

    USADA came to help the sale and make it seem some legit company which will be clean for the future and help it, though it did backfire but they were not really fussed as they were leaving, and their top draws at that time were never going to get busted (Ronda/Conor)

    Zuffa > Pride, in terms of corruptions

    And all these interim belts/underserved title shots were happening when Zuffa were in charge, which is way I laughed when retards argued with me saying zuffa were not selling up anytime soon when it was pretty obvious they were,

    WME are just clueless and carrying on where Zuffa left except they will make it more of a mess and soon add more divisions and have watered down cards thinking 3 belt cards mean something.
     
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    Thanks, good points from both of you.
     
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  17. ostlerrage Yellow Card

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    completely wrong. with cheating and ped use. the ufc will never get mainstream.
    cheating is bad for the sport. it ain't rocket science.
     
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  18. Karnage I <3 Belgium

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    The UFC died in the moment that tooth went flying at UFC 1.
     
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  19. qw3rty WAMMA Belt

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    yeah blame USADA, not Jones

    <{cruzshake}>
     
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  20. bigeastgi43 Shut your mouth before I fuck it.

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    Well stop being a fan then. These fighters shot themselves in the foot when they took steroids.
     
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