UFC Performance Institute, is it a Conflict of Interest? Should UFC interfere in outcomes?

VIPERdude said:
Oh yeah? Lol you high? You must be trollin

Lol smh ..."MMA isnt even a sport"

By definition here's what a sport is my friend...."Any physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or "others" in a competition or for entertainment is a sport." Seems like it would fit the bill to me.
What else do you call it? Billiards?

Fighting itself is not a sport.
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Get over it.
You're watching sports entertainment
 
GOATER said:
Now I know the UFC set this up so any fight can use it....but the reality is, not everybody uses it.

So far, from what I seen Ngannou, Conor, and Kevin Lee used this.....and all of them seem to be pushed by the UFC to be succesful.

Ngannou was totally favored by Dana, there is no denying that the UFC wanted Ngannou to win.


Same goes with Kevin Lee, if Dana had his way...Kevin Lee would beat Ferguson because in Dana's feeble little mind, the thought of Lee vs Conor sells way more than Khabib or Ferguson vs Conor.


In Conor's case, atleast it was used against Mayweather so it was alright since it was "UFC vs Boxing"...Im sure Conor will probably use again for his upcoming UFC fights


It just seems very fucking fishy to me, that the UFC is helping some fighters to beat other fighters.


Also knowing that this is a Corporation, how do we know that some fighters don't get better help than others....

Lets say for Example Stipe and Ngannou both used the UFC Performance institute...They could easily sabotaged Stipe by giving him worse help than Ngannou...I know people will say thats impossible, but it's certainly a possibility.


I honestly don't like this.....UFC shouldn't interfere or help any fighters in becoming a better fighter....Fighters should stick to their own training camps, UFC should just promote.
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Yes, the UFC shows favoritism towards one or more of their fighters and the UFC can hypothetical sabotage the other fight. However, the fighters still need to perform under the lights, and that's out of the UFC's control.
 
bad seed said:
is pro wrestling a sport? It requires skill and physical exertion too.
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Lol um... no

Wrestling itself is a sport. Professional wrestling takes the notion of sport. Is a Broadway play considered a movie? No.

Pro-wrestling is fake. It is scripted, a form of performance art which combines ...athletics with theatrical performance...

Mimicking a combat sport isnt a real competition.
 
I don't think ur assessment of Kevin Lee is correct. Also plenty others have used the facility and they aren't pushing them....

They push those that play the game. Pretty simple
 
GOATER said:
Now I know the UFC set this up so any fight can use it....but the reality is, not everybody uses it.

So far, from what I seen Ngannou, Conor, and Kevin Lee used this.....and all of them seem to be pushed by the UFC to be succesful.

Ngannou was totally favored by Dana, there is no denying that the UFC wanted Ngannou to win.


Same goes with Kevin Lee, if Dana had his way...Kevin Lee would beat Ferguson because in Dana's feeble little mind, the thought of Lee vs Conor sells way more than Khabib or Ferguson vs Conor.


In Conor's case, atleast it was used against Mayweather so it was alright since it was "UFC vs Boxing"...Im sure Conor will probably use again for his upcoming UFC fights


It just seems very fucking fishy to me, that the UFC is helping some fighters to beat other fighters.


Also knowing that this is a Corporation, how do we know that some fighters don't get better help than others....

Lets say for Example Stipe and Ngannou both used the UFC Performance institute...They could easily sabotaged Stipe by giving him worse help than Ngannou...I know people will say thats impossible, but it's certainly a possibility.


I honestly don't like this.....UFC shouldn't interfere or help any fighters in becoming a better fighter....Fighters should stick to their own training camps, UFC should just promote.
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Dana favored Francis because of the money Dana thought he could make off him. In all honesty, if Francis had a real camp(not the UFCPI) he would've had a better outcome. TPI is basically for poor fighters that can't afford real coaching. It might change in the future, but without high level coaching it's just a glorified Planet Fitness.
 
VIPERdude said:
Its a competition. Real rules, real referees, real judging, real sanctioning.

Next
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Prove it
Tell me the sport where the champ leaves to do another sport and refuses to defend his title?

Wwe smackdown
 
Cooliox said:
Yes, favoritsm is real. Its real everywhere.

Has nothing to do with the outcome though. The ufc can push and promote who they want, and even throw guys under the bus whom thwart their plans... but in the end shit gets decided in the cage, the athletic commission oversees the sport, and the outcome.

Matt Brown made an issue out of this when the UFC paid for Kelvin's nutritionist.

Shit, that's just how the world works. Are you going to overcome it, like Cyborg did? YEARS of being bashed by Dana and the UFC... while they showered Ronda with roses. Yet, Cyborg was resilient, she chose to overcome.

And today, Cyborg is UFC world champion main-eventing ppvs while Ronda retired in shame and is now in the WWE.

Yes favourtism is real, but it can only get you so far.
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Agreed. They definitely favor certain fighters over others, and their transparency about it is rather startling.
 
PapaBherd said:
Agreed. They definitely favor certain fighters over others, and their transparency about it is rather startling.
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Spot on.

Not sure if it is due to a lack of professionalism, or if it is just arrogance.

Either way, they certainly are not subtle.
 
PapaBherd said:
Agreed. They definitely favor certain fighters over others, and their transparency about it is rather startling.
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UFC / Dana: "Listen, we are very transparent about our shadiness."
 
I still don't really get what the advantage is for using it. I assume fighters would probably prefer training with their team anyway.
 
MPD-Psycho said:
I still don't really get what the advantage is for using it. I assume fighters would probably prefer training with their team anyway.
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http://www.ufc.com/performance-institute-health
http://www.ufc.com/performance-institute-recover

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions about the performance institute. There's many services for fighters, ranging from high-tech recovery devices to performance analysis. It's just simply not your average training facility. For example, it offers fighters rehabilitation program in case of injury.

Oh, and the services are free for the fighters.
 
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Megatronlee said:
Prove it
Tell me the sport where the champ leaves to do another sport and refuses to defend his title?

Wwe smackdown
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NBA. MJ left, while champ, to play baseball. And he was the GOAT, just like Conor.
 
Yes it's a conflict of interest, they clearly let favored fighters train/live there and most other people are SOL. We also have no idea whats really going on behind closed doors there, for all we know they have loopholes that let certain guys use PEDs under the supervision of UFC doctors there.
 
Cooliox said:
Spot on.

Not sure if it is due to a lack of professionalism, or if it is just arrogance.

Either way, they certainly are not subtle.
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Both come into play bur it's more of the latter. They have an ironfist on the industry, and they aren't afraid to remind everyone.
 
LongDongSilver said:
that's all that thing was built for .. The big sale !! UFC was pushed as a new sport .. Hollywood got suckered out of 4 billion and Dana and tittas laugh to the bank..

all they want it for is to collect data and sell it ..
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It's good to be a Titta today!
 
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