UFC 215 & 216 Early PPV Numbers ... | Page 11

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  1. P4PSHERGOAT Blue Belt

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    Well to be fair, it's not everyday that you watch a celebrity take a shit on live tv
     
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    This exactly. The UFC is a shitty, shitty, promoter. They always have been. They have always relied on the fighters promoting the fight and themselves. The ones that could do that effectively and generate the big buys, fell into 2 camps.

    1) The UFC 'Yes Man' camp. These were people like Matt Hughes and Chuck Liddell. They could generate the big buys and they ball licked Dana and the UFC.

    2) The 'Fucking Pay Me' Camp. These people knew the UFC needed them and demanded money. Anderson Silva, Randy, Tito, GSP, etc. And obviously now R3 Jones, Conor, etc.

    If the UFC actually knew how to promote, they could make people care about Mighty Mouse. They could make people care about T-Ferg. That's what promoters are supposed to do, make people care enough to buy a ticket or a PPV.

    Thanks to R3 and Conor, there are no more 'UFC Yes Men' that generate the big buys. They are now ALL going to fall into the 'fucking pay me' camp. Which is just fine with me.
     
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    125lb champ who refuses and ducks anyone who can challenge him.
    135lb - Strong and interesting div but an injured champion
    145lb - A vacated belt, Connor left and div died. Will be a while before it attracts real interest again.
    155lb - A champ who won't defend the belt and hasn't fought in a year, contenders who miss weight.
    170lb - The most boring champion in history.
    185lb - This division could have been everything. The UFC completely killed it with terrible match making. To have so many killers in one division held up and not able to compete for a title. Just lol. And now Mousasi and Rory are gone.
    205lb - No more Bones Jones, and the champ DC lost all mystique and interest losing to a guy who can't fight anymore. No interesting contender with retired AJ.
    265lb - Stipe has to improve his charisma to have mainstream appeal.
     
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    They oversaturated the market with too many shit cards
     
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    Its getting so bad now, it will get to the point where it will be below 100k, like 80-90k range.

    They say UFC has got more popular, well just for a example.. UFC 8 did 300k buys (1996) in fact all the old UFC's sold more PPV's than these events.
     
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    How tf did it take over a month for 215's buyrate, but it hasn't been a week for 216. I don't believe 216.
     
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    Of yeah? Well i think after that comment that maybe... Just maybe... We can be friends
     
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    Thanks for enlighten me up.My point still stands tho.It is not Ferg and Lee's fault if Conor and Nate have too much casual fans behind him.
     
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    Mighty Mouse showing how he's the greatest of all time.

    I'm sorry but if no one gives a single fuck about you, you're not the greatest. It is very telling.
     
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    ------------------2016
    195 = 230k
    196 = 1.3M
    197 = 320k
    198 = 217k
    199 = 283k

    200 = 1M
    201 = 240k
    202 = 1.6M
    203 = 475k
    204 = 290k
    205 = 1.3M
    206 = 150k
    207 = 1.1M
    ------------------2017
    208 = 200k
    209 = 300k
    210 = 300k
    211 = 300k

    212 = 200k
    213 = 130k
    214 = 860k
    215 = 100k
    216 = 120k

    The Only 5 Names That Have Drawn
    1. Conor McGregor
    2. Ronda Rousey (Retired)
    3. Brock Lesnar (Retired)
    4. Jon Jones (Suspended)
    5. CM Punk (Bellator)
     
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    Man I remember a time when ppv buys was a way to judge how many people watch the UFC
    Those days are gone. Sure maybe 100k people ordered the event, but I guarantee that doesn't even equal 10% of the people who watched the event


    The UFC isn't dying, PPV is.
     
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    All 3 Cards headlined with an interim title (206, 213, and 216) did 150k or less.
     
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    Never fear, Bellator has been putting in reps on the Hungry Hungry Hippo game.
     
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    Being too lazy to do any real analysis, it seems to me that this is just a continuation of a well established trend -- the continued erosion of the minimum buy rate floor (also known as "hardcore fans who are going to buy every PPV no matter what") and an increased ceiling for a handful of stars.

    In the UFC 100 era, PPV's without a major PPV star seemed to be able to do 300k+ buys. Stars like GSP and Lesnar could do 2-3 times that.

    In the current era, the new baseline seems to be 100-150K but, paradoxically, the biggest stars like RR and Conor pull in bigger PPV numbers than ever before.

    it is an interesting divergence in the market. the fear for the UFC must be that RR and Conor have rare crossover appeal that will be difficult to replicate. fighter careers are notoriously variable. it turns out the RR wasn't really that good and didn't really have the heart for it (neither do I). it is unclear whether Conor is really a dominant champ and how long the UFC can perserve his mystique via favorable matchups.

    obviously the UFC is aware of all this & it will play a major role in the negotiation of the new tv deal.
     
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    In 2009 the lowest PPV did 350k (Jackson vs. Jardine). Now 213, 215, and 216 did a combined 350k.
     
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    was still already drawing WAY more than mighty duck
     
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    UFC is gonna be to its parent company what ESPN is to Disney. A money pit.
     
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    Are you implying UFC 200 drew 1m+ buys because of Miesha Tate?

    If so, then that's laughable.
     
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