International Turkey's Lonely Road to Isolation: The World Looks on as Erdogan Jockeys for a Third Decade in Power

Sure, let's studiously ignore that Europeans were white and Christian and the moslems are brown and moslem. lol

Just another war between neighbors with no greater meaning whatsoever...

Then I suppose it's ok if we do them like they did the Armenians. lol

They can't hold a grudge over it, after all France was their ally for 5 whole minutes of history. lol

5 minutes? The french were allied with the Ottomans for almost half the existence of their empire and they were allied with various european power from the XIX until it ended.

But sure go ahead and keep those white brotherhood fantasies.

And as i said before at no point in classical, medieval or early modern period has race ever meant shit in continental Europe.

And in what universe are Armenians white while Turks arent? ever met an Armenian.

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There are a gazillion race bait threads, go and troll there.
 
Erdogan tells American Military and Intel Chief " Know your Place"

James Clapper (US Director of National Intelligence) and Joseph Votel (chief of US Central Command) expressed concerned that the fight against ISIS is compromised because many of the Turkish military officials that they interacted with were purged by Erdogan. Erdogan has purged half of Turkey's 358 generals.

In response to the US pair's comments, Erdogan fired back: "It's not up to you to make that decision. Who are you? Know your place," he said, and hinted the United States could be behind the failed plot.

"My people know who is behind this scheme ... they know who the superior intelligence behind it is, and with these statements you are revealing yourselves, you are giving yourselves away," he said.

http://www.dw.com/en/erdogan-tells-us-intelligence-chief-know-your-place/a-19438025

Well paranoid Erdogan is hurting the competency of the Turkish armed forced with his purges, so I hope he keeps going.
 
5 minutes? The french were allied with the Ottomans for almost half the existence of their empire and they were allied with various european power from the XIX until it ended.

But sure go ahead and keep those white brotherhood fantasies.

And as i said before at no point in classical, medieval or early modern period has race ever meant shit in continental Europe.

And in what universe are Armenians white while Turks arent? ever met an Armenian.

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There are a gazillion race bait threads, go and troll there.

Kalid Sheik Mohammad???? lolzlololol

Shut up dude. Armenians are Christians besides not moslem terrorists.

I'm not talking ONLY about the Ottoman empire, am I? Am I? lol

Race didn't mean shit...until the moslems raped the Italians and Spaniards and turned them brown, not to mention the mongrel Turks. lol

This may shock you but Europeans are naturally white before they are invaded and raped by Saracens. What a bullshitter.
 
Kalid Sheik Mohammad???? lolzlololol

Shut up dude. Armenians are Christians besides not moslem terrorists.

I'm not talking ONLY about the Ottoman empire, am I? Am I? lol

Race didn't mean shit...until the moslems raped the Italians and Spaniards and turned them brown, not to mention the mongrel Turks. lol

This may shock you but Europeans are naturally white before they are invaded and raped by Saracens. What a bullshitter.

LOL.

You want to derail the thread go ahead, but no, its been utterly proved that the ancient greeks were not nordic or slav, but greek.

So are the spanish celtiberians and not moorish.
 
I guess we shouldn't bring up the genocide of the Armenians.

The Turks genocided 1.5 million of them or so in the early 20th century...great "allies".

Wonderful people. lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

Do you know why no one in this thread is talking about the Armenian Genocide a hundred years ago? One: Because the Armenian Genocide's discussion thread is over here, and Two: the current conversation in THIS topic is about the fallouts from the latest military coup. That's why.

Why you're nowhere near intelligent enough for the exceedingly-simple task of going to the right threads to discuss the right topics is a mystery, however.

Now go away, before the Mods here award you with a shiny new yellow card for trying to derail this topic with utterly-worthless "contributions" that has absolutely nothing to do with the current discussion, or any of the recent political developments in Turkey (as covered by the Thread Index in the OP) for that matter.

The rest of you needs to knock it off as well. One retarded troll can never derail a thread without assistance from other people. If you want to participate in my thread, I believe you have the capacity to contribute in much better ways than helping a troll pulling it off-topic.
 
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Turkey is threatening Europe that if the EU does not grant Visa Free travel to Turks then Turkey will stop implementing the Migrant deal they have with the E.U.'

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/turkey-says-back-away-eu-migrant-deal-no-184209153.html

And Visa Free travel will ensure masses of Turks move to Europe and amongst them will be Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Odds are Europeans will bend over and acquiesce.
 
What's going on at Incirlik right now? Last I heard there were thousands of Turkish police blocking any traffic going in and out of the base, there were anti-American protesters there...our nukes are there.
 
LOL.

You want to derail the thread go ahead, but no, its been utterly proved that the ancient greeks were not nordic or slav, but greek.

So are the spanish celtiberians and not moorish.

No it hasn't. Greek meant something different before they were overrun by Saracens. Just like Turks are mongrelized Europeans.

Do you know why no one in this thread is talking about the Armenian Genocide a hundred years ago? One: Because the Armenian Genocide's discussion thread is over here, and Two: the current conversation in THIS topic is about the fallouts from the latest military coup. That's why.

Why you're nowhere near intelligent enough for the exceedingly-simple task of going to the right threads to discuss the right topics is a mystery, however.

Now go away, before the Mods here award you with a shiny new yellow card for trying to derail this topic with utterly-worthless "contributions" that has absolutely nothing to do with the current discussion, or any of the recent political developments in Turkey (as covered by the Thread Index in the OP) for that matter.

The rest of you needs to knock it off as well. One retarded troll can never derail a thread without assistance from other people. If you want to participate in my thread, I believe you have the capacity to contribute in much better ways than helping a troll pulling it off-topic.

Interesting how your dire need to stay on topic is so specific to me.

I'm certain that has nothing to do with Erdogan, considering he's trying to revive the Ottoman empire that did the genocide.

Way off topic, my bad. The bad man won't bother you any more. lol
 
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No it hasn't. Greek meant something different before they were overrun by Saracens. Just like Turks are mongrelized Europeans.

Proof or GTFO.

Actually just GTFO.
 
What's going on at Incirlik right now? Last I heard there were thousands of Turkish police blocking any traffic going in and out of the base, there were anti-American protesters there...our nukes are there.

Turkish troops have sealed off Incirlik US/NATO nuclear air base
August 1, 2016

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TURKISH citizens and police have ‘surrounded’ the Incirlik air base it operates with the United States — and where a large stockpile of NATO nuclear weapons is held — ahead of a visit by a senior US official tomorrow.

Reports out of Turkey suggest all entrances to the air base have been blocked by heavy vehicles and police sent to secure its peremiter.

The unusual nigh-time move sparked rumours of a second coup attempt on Turkish social media, with concerned citizens rushing to the air base to join the blockade.

The move comes less than a week after a top US Army general was accused by Turkish media of ‘leading’ the uprising against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier this month.



But Turkish Minister for European Affairs has since reportedly sought to reassure local media, stating the mission was just a “safety inspection”.

Regional Governor Ahmet Cina has told Turkish news services: “Everthing is normal and controlled. There is no movement of our troops.”

US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Joseph Dunford is due to fly in for an inspection of the air base later today. He is also expected to hold talks with the Turkish government in Ankara.

Last week, General Dunford labelled Turkish claims that a retired US general was behind the coup as “absurd”.

The Turkish Hurriyet news service reported Turkish authorities had responded to “intelligence reports” by ordering the move about 11pm Turkish time.

It states ‘riot police’ and armed vehicles have ‘taken precautions’ around the base.

The air base has been a central facility in US and NATO efforts against Islamic State. It also houses a stockpile of nuclear weapons as part of NATO’s deterrence force.

Several of the aircraft used by coup forces during the failed uprising flew out of the Incirlik air base, which then had its power supply cut off for several weeks.

ARMED FORCES ‘REINED-IN’

Turkey will shut down its military academies and put the armed forces under the command of the defence minister, President Tayyip Erdogan said in a move designed to bring the military under tighter government control after a failed coup.

The changes come after more than 1700 military personnel were dishonourably discharged for their role in the abortive July 15-16 putsch. Erdogan, who narrowly escaped capture and possible death on the night of the coup, told Reuters in an interview last week that the military, NATO’s second-biggest, needed “fresh blood”.

The dishonourable discharges included around 40 per cent of Turkey’s admirals and generals.

Turkey accuses US-based Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen of orchestrating the putsch, in which a faction of the military commandeered tanks, helicopters and fighter jets and attempted to topple the government. Erdogan has said 237 people were killed and more than 2100 wounded.

Gulen, who has lived in self-imposed exile in the United States for years, denies the charge and has condemned the coup.

So far, more than 60,000 people in the military, judiciary, civil service and schools have been either detained, removed or suspended over suspected links with Gulen.

Turkey’s Western allies condemned the attempted putsch, but have been rattled by the scale of the resulting crackdown.

Both the general staff and the intelligence agency now report to the prime minister’s office. Putting them under the president’s overall direction would be in line with Erdogan’s push for a new constitution centred on a strong executive presidency.

Erdogan also said that a total of 10,137 people have been formally arrested following the coup.


http://www.news.com.au/world/report...e/news-story/4d7bb16e4e86842218b5b0d7d70f582b
 
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Turkish troops have sealed off Incirlik US/NATO nuclear air base
August 1, 2016

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TURKISH citizens and police have ‘surrounded’ the Incirlik air base it operates with the United States — and where a large stockpile of NATO nuclear weapons is held — ahead of a visit by a senior US official tomorrow.


Reports out of Turkey suggest all entrances to the air base have been blocked by heavy vehicles and police sent to secure its peremiter.

The unusual nigh-time move sparked rumours of a second coup attempt on Turkish social media, with concerned citizens rushing to the air base to join the blockade.

The move comes less than a week after a top US Army general was accused by Turkish media of ‘leading’ the uprising against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier this month.



But Turkish Minister for European Affairs has since reportedly sought to reassure local media, stating the mission was just a “safety inspection”.

Regional Governor Ahmet Cina has told Turkish news services: “Everthing is normal and controlled. There is no movement of our troops.”

US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Joseph Dunford is due to fly in for an inspection of the air base later today. He is also expected to hold talks with the Turkish government in Ankara.

Last week, General Dunford labelled Turkish claims that a retired US general was behind the coup as “absurd”.

The Turkish Hurriyet news service reported Turkish authorities had responded to “intelligence reports” by ordering the move about 11pm Turkish time.

It states ‘riot police’ and armed vehicles have ‘taken precautions’ around the base.

The air base has been a central facility in US and NATO efforts against Islamic State. It also houses a stockpile of nuclear weapons as part of NATO’s deterrence force.

Several of the aircraft used by coup forces during the failed uprising flew out of the Incirlik air base, which then had its power supply cut off for several weeks.

ARMED FORCES ‘REINED-IN’

Turkey will shut down its military academies and put the armed forces under the command of the defence minister, President Tayyip Erdogan said in a move designed to bring the military under tighter government control after a failed coup.

The changes come after more than 1700 military personnel were dishonourably discharged for their role in the abortive July 15-16 putsch. Erdogan, who narrowly escaped capture and possible death on the night of the coup, told Reuters in an interview last week that the military, NATO’s second-biggest, needed “fresh blood”.

The dishonourable discharges included around 40 per cent of Turkey’s admirals and generals.

Turkey accuses US-based Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen of orchestrating the putsch, in which a faction of the military commandeered tanks, helicopters and fighter jets and attempted to topple the government. Erdogan has said 237 people were killed and more than 2100 wounded.

Gulen, who has lived in self-imposed exile in the United States for years, denies the charge and has condemned the coup.

So far, more than 60,000 people in the military, judiciary, civil service and schools have been either detained, removed or suspended over suspected links with Gulen.

Turkey’s Western allies condemned the attempted putsch, but have been rattled by the scale of the resulting crackdown.

Both the general staff and the intelligence agency now report to the prime minister’s office. Putting them under the president’s overall direction would be in line with Erdogan’s push for a new constitution centred on a strong executive presidency.

Erdogan also said that a total of 10,137 people have been formally arrested following the coup.

http://www.news.com.au/world/report...e/news-story/4d7bb16e4e86842218b5b0d7d70f582b


What a mess. A shame they weren't able to take Erdogan out. Future looks grim for that base.

Well, if Turkey exits/is expelled from NATO, that might be good for Georgia. NATO would have to finally accept them in order to maintain a presence in that region.
 
What a mess. A shame they weren't able to take Erdogan out. Future looks grim for that base.

Well, if Turkey exits/is expelled from NATO, that might be good for Georgia. NATO would have to finally accept them in order to maintain a presence in that region.

Even if Turkey remains in NATO, I still think our nuclear stockpile should be moved elsewhere.
 
What the blockade is still going on? I thought this was resolved already.
 

Should the U.S. Pull Its Nuclear Weapons From Turkey?
July 20, 2016​

NATO’s largest cache of nuclear weapons — American hydrogen bombs — is at the Incirlik air base in southeastern Turkey. Air operations from the base were suspended during last week’s coup raising questions about the security of the weapons.

Should the United States pull its weapons from Turkey, and other NATO bases, to more secure locations?
Debaters:

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Jeffrey Lewis - scholar at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey.

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Kori Schake - fellow at the Hoover Institution, has worked in the Pentagon, the National Security Council and the State Department.


They Are Safe and Increase the World’s Safety
Kori Schake

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U.S. nuclear weapons stationed in Turkey are under the control of U.S. military forces, so they would be defended by ferociously well-trained and well-equipped American troops. Maintaining control of the weapons would be the top priority if seizure was ever threatened, with all of America’s military power put to the task.

Moreover, American nuclear forces cannot be used without codes, making the weapons impossible to set off without authorization. So the fact that nuclear weapons are stationed in Turkey does not make them vulnerable to capture and use, even if the country were to turn hostile to the United States.

At the NATO summit just two weeks ago, President Obama and other NATO leaders reiterated that “deterrence and defense, based on an appropriate mix of nuclear, conventional, and missile defense capabilities, remains a core element of our overall strategy.”

Only U.S. nuclear forces are shared within the alliance, and they remain under U.S. control but are matched with allied air crews from Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy and Turkey. Weapons are stationed in those countries to maximize the demonstration of alliance solidarity. If the weapons are in the U.S. and we have to choose to send them, enemies might think they could give us second thoughts (like Obama had about the Syria red line). That's destabilizing. Even the perception that the United States would not honor its NATO pledge would dangerously erode Europe’s security.

The most effective nonproliferation policy has actually been security guarantees by the United States to its allies. Several countries — including Germany, Japan and South Korea — have the ability to build nuclear weapons but have chosen not to because they trust in our commitment to defend them. If the U.S. were to withdraw weapons from Turkey, it would be a further signal to already worried allies that the United States can no longer be relied on as a security partner. And that could easily lead countries like Turkey to develop nuclear weapons of their own.

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They Are Useless and Leaving Them There Is Dangerous
Jeffrey Lewis

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Should the United States remove the nuclear bombs stored at Incirlik air base in Turkey? Well, the Turkish commander of the base just used the assets under his command to help the coup plotters mount an F-16 strike on the parliament. What do you think?

Yes, the bombs are stored in vaults, inside protective aircraft shelters, inside a security perimeter and require special codes to arm them. But none of these features are intended to protect the weapons against a host nation that attempts to seize them. They can buy time, but that is all.

These weapons serve no purpose. Neither Turkish aircraft nor U.S. aircraft in Turkey can deliver the bombs. The United States Air Force regards them as an expensive distraction from the mission of countering the Islamic State. The Turkish government regards them as a political liability that shouldn’t be mentioned.

Why do they stay? We are told the weapons are an important symbol of our commitment to NATO. What the bombs at Incirlik really symbolize, however, is our inability to relinquish our nuclear stockpiles, even once they have no purpose and are an evident security threat.

It isn't just Turkey that is a problem. Peace activists have repeatedly breached the security at an airbase where U.S. nuclear weapons are stored in Belgium. Belgium, of course, was also the victim of a series of horrific terrorist attacks. A recent Air Force review found that security at all the foreign airbases that host U.S. nuclear weapons was inadequate.

People who oppose sending the weapons back to the United States argue that we should not reduce the remaining 200 or so American nuclear weapons in Europe until Russia reduces its stockpile of several thousand tactical nuclear weapons. But the weapons in Turkey or other locations don’t have to return to the United States. They could be consolidated elsewhere in Europe, at U.S.-operated airbases in politically stable countries such as Germany, Italy or the United Kingdom.

Of course that would require the U.S. explain to the German, Italian and the British publics why they should offer asylum, so to speak, to nuclear weapons fleeing Turkey. And if you think the sight of the Turkish commander of a NATO nuclear base being arrested for treason worries some people in NATO’s nuclear bureaucracy, it is nothing compared to the terror of defending this posture in public.

They Provide Deterrence to Conventional Threats
Kori Schake

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It is not true that NATO nuclear weapons in Turkey serve no purpose. They serve political, military and economic purposes. Wars start when combatants think they can achieve political objectives by force — that is, when they think they can win. Nuclear weapons make wars between countries that have them unwinnable.

So nuclear weapons stabilize relations between the strongest powers. Shared responsibility for nuclear weapons missions in NATO demonstrates to Russia and other adversaries the solidarity of the NATO allies, our willingness to fight to preserve the independence of our countries. Removing those weapons from Europe might reasonably cause adversaries to think the United States could be divided from Europe in a crisis, or wouldn’t come to Europe’s defense. Those kinds of calculations make Europe less secure and war more likely.

Nuclear weapons reduce the conventional forces necessary to deter adversaries. Much larger armies would be necessary if we and our European allies wanted to make it impossible for an enemy to believe they could win a war against us. Since the mission of NATO militaries is defensive, war would be fought on the country of our allies, at enormous human cost. Both for reasons of reassurance and the cost of regaining Europe if it were overrun, the United States would need to station much larger forces in Europe to prevail in a conventional-only war.

It is also not true that European governments are unwilling to persuade their publics of the value of nuclear weapons. Just yesterday the British Parliament voted to continue with their nuclear submarine programs; the majority of opposition MPs even voted in favor after an extensive public debate. Two weeks ago Germany and Belgium also reaffirmed the role of nuclear weapons in NATO defenses. If we did not consider it a provocation to Russia, other allies would be willing to participate in nuclear stationing and nuclear missions.

That the U.S. Air Force considers nuclear missions an expensive distraction is true. But it says more about the fighter pilot culture of the Air Force as an institution than it does about the nuclear mission. Pilots prefer the operational challenge of non-nuclear missions; that does not mean they are more valuable than the strategic mission of nuclear weapons strikes. The military also does not like fighting in cyber-degraded environments or using chemical weapons protection gear, but unless they do, our enemies have enormous advantages.

And yes, peace activists breached defenses. That our military treats civilian protests without recourse to deadly force is to their great credit; that in no way demonstrates they are incapable of carrying out their missions against enemies.

War between major powers has been so long deterred by nuclear weapons that we in the West have grown inured to the risk of war against a country that could conceivably destroy our cities, take our political sovereignty, or impose tens of thousands of military casualties on our forces. We have the luxury of fighting enemies incapable of those things because nuclear weapons have stabilized higher-end threats. But just because nuclear weapons have become unfashionable in the West does not mean that our adversaries consider them so.

Stop Clinging to Cold War Relics
Jeffrey Lewis

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If NATO nuclear weapons in Turkey are important, why are there no aircraft there to drop them? If European governments support the NATO nuclear mission, why don’t they provide for adequate security at the bases? And most important, why isn’t Germany jumping at the chance to house the nuclear weapons currently in Turkey?

I agree that it is important that NATO deter Russia. That’s why I am willing to try consolidating existing U.S. nuclear weapons in Europe instead of withdrawing them. Russia has invaded two of its neighbors and seems committed to destabilizing others – including NATO members in the Baltics. Russia is also in flagrant violation of an important arms control treaty, the 1987 Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Agreement.

But how can NATO best respond to Russia’s belligerence? The most important goal is that we remain united as allies. For my entire lifetime, Moscow has sought a Germany that is neutral and isolated from NATO. That’s why Putin keeps inviting former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder to his birthday parties.

While NATO communiques talk loudly about the importance of nuclear weapons, the actions of NATO members reveal a deep ambivalence: Nuclear weapons are an issue that divides, not unites, us. That is why officials worry that Germany wouldn’t accept the nuclear weapons now stored in Turkey. And that is why almost no one – on the right or the left -- proposes the United States respond to Russia’s violation of the INF Treaty by withdrawing from the agreement and attempting to station our own nuclear-armed missiles in Europe. We say nuclear weapons are important, but our actions say otherwise.

If our main goal was improving security, we could consolidate the existing number of nuclear weapons in a smaller number of air bases in Europe. But if the argument is that moving the weapons would be too politically explosive or divisive, then doesn’t that tell us something about the value of the weapons? Doesn't that tell us that the weapons symbolize a divided alliance?

We should try to consolidate the weapons, but if other NATO states won’t take them, bring them home. In the long-run, NATO is better off reducing its emphasis on nuclear weapons in favor of a strong conventional deterrent against Russian aggression. It is Russia that needs nuclear weapons to offset its fundamental weakness. NATO would be stronger if its members stopped criticizing those who support working toward disarmament and started criticizing Russia, which is currently developing a bizarre array of new nuclear arms out of cold war science fiction. NATO should reject the madness of the Cold War, not cling to its relics.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/07/20/should-the-us-pull-its-nuclear-weapons-from-turkey
 
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Austria pushes EU to end Turkey membership talks
AFP on August 5, 2016

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Vienna (AFP) - Austria's government said Thursday that Turkey is unfit to join the European Union in the wake of the recent post-coup crackdown, calling for the bloc to discuss ending membership talks.

Turkey's longstanding, and recently revived, bid to join the EU has already been hit by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's suggestion that he may reintroduce the death penalty after the July 15 attempted putsch.

"We have to face reality: the membership negotiations are currently no more than fiction," Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern told the Die Presse newspaper in comments published Thursday.

"We know that Turkey's democratic standards are far from sufficient to justify its accession."

Asked by public broadcaster ORF whether he wanted to halt the talks, Kern said he would initiate a debate on the matter at a summit of leaders on September 16.

Austrian Defence Minister Hans-Peter Doskozil meanwhile compared Turkey to a "dictatorship", adding that "such a state has no place in the EU".

"The time has come to... clearly say that the EU's negotiations with Turkey have to be suspended or ended," Doskozil told the Austria Press Agency in an interview published Thursday.

- 'Disturbing' comments -

The Austrian government said that apart from rights issues, Turkey's economy also remained far below the EU average and well short of membership requirements.

Making Ankara a part of the EU's single market would spark "massive economic upheaval" in a bloc already struggling to cope with its enlargement toward eastern and central Europe, Kern warned.

Instead, the EU should seek "new alternatives" to help bring Turkey's economy closer to European standards.

"(The country) remains an important partner in security and integration matters," Kern said, highlighting NATO member Turkey's key role in the ongoing migrant crisis.

In March, Turkey and the EU signed a controversial deal in which Ankara agreed to take back migrants landing on Greek islands in exchange for political and financial incentives.

In addition to visa-free travel, the pact includes billions of euros in aid and accelerated EU membership talks.

Kern said he did not believe that a halt to accession talks would torpedo the refugee pact.

"Economically, we have the upper hand. Turkey depends on us," he added.

Turkey's EU Affairs Minister Omer Celik called Kern's comments "extremely disturbing".

"Criticism is a democratic right but there must be a distance between criticising Turkey and anti-Turkey attitude," he said.

The European Commission, the bloc's executive body, refused to directly comment on the Austrian chancellor's remarks.

However, Commission deputy spokeswoman Mina Andreeva said membership talks were measured against a series of requirements including "the respect for the rule of law, human rights and fundamental freedoms".

"At the moment... the opening of further negotiation chapters is not under discussion (among leaders)," she said.

Turkey's EU membership bid dates back to 1963, with its formal application made in 1987 and negotiations starting in 2005.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/32241046/austria-pushes-eu-to-end-turkey-membership-talks/#page1
 
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Turkey scolds Austria in EU membership dispute

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Turkey has angrily rejected Austrian suggestions that its membership talks with the EU should be ended.

Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern said the negotiations were "no more than fiction" and "Europe needs a new path".

Turkey's EU Affairs Minister Omer Celik said his comments were "disturbing" and "similar to far-right rhetoric".

Turkey's crackdown since a failed coup on 15 July has fuelled alarm in the EU. Mr Kern said democratic standards in Turkey were far from EU requirements.

Austrian Defence Minister Hans Peter Doskozil has criticised "signs of a dictatorship" in Turkey, and called for an end to its EU accession talks.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker agreed that "Turkey cannot become a European Union member in its current state".

But he rejected the Austrian position. "I don't think it would be helpful if we were to tell Turkey unilaterally that the negotiations are over," he told German ARD news.

Freedom of movement

In 2005 Turkey began negotiations to join the EU, but progress has been extremely slow. Many European politicians are against Turkey joining, although it is an official candidate.

Turkey has urged the EU to grant visa-free travel to Turks wishing to visit the Schengen zone, covering most of Europe.

The EU offered visa liberalisation as part of its March deal with Turkey, aimed at curbing the flow of migrants from Turkey to Greece.

But the EU attached stringent conditions to the travel offer - and so far, the EU says, Turkey has only fulfilled some of them.

Five benchmarks to be met by Turkey in full:
  • Corruption: Turkey must pass measures to prevent corruption, in line with EU recommendations
  • Data protection: It must align national legislation on personal data protection with EU standards
  • Europol: An agreement is to be concluded with the continent's law enforcement agency
  • Judicial co-operation: It must work with all EU members on criminal matters
  • Legislation on terrorism: Turkey is also required to bring its terror laws in line with European standards

More than 50,000 Turks have been detained or sacked over suspected links with the alleged mastermind of the coup plot, Fethullah Gulen. The US-based cleric denies any role in the attempted overthrow of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Turkey has been accused of abusing anti-terrorism laws to silence critics of Mr Erdogan.

According to Mr Celik, Turkey still holds EU "core values" as its benchmark.

He said "criticism is a democratic right but there must be a distance between criticising Turkey and an anti-Turkey attitude".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36973319
 
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