Trump will drop climate change from National Security Strategy. Because he's stupid.

[hillelslovak87]

"They are ALL in on it. Conspiracy of the highest order man.

I knew Ted Nugent was right.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Lol.

Climate Refugees

Please present one example of an undisputable "climate refugee".

I'm afraid that's not going to do, you've made an extraordinary claim, and it's going to require extraordinary evidence.

You've made the claim that there is such a thing as a "climate refugee", yet you're unable to present any evidence of such a person existing.

You are aware that coastlines are capable of changing naturally, correct?

The video you posted was of flooding during the monsoon season.

Weather =/= climate

You have yet to show an example of a "climate refugee". I'm not deflecting in the least, you just have yet to show the evidence for your claim.

Why indeed.

The left views the climate change industrial complex as a way of gaining more political power. This is why the demands/"solutions" are always so hysterically disproportionate to the problems presented.

So are you now willing to concede that there's no such thing as a "climate refugee"?

Her me you go! Pretty sure this won’t change your made up mind though.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/...refugees.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/green/bal-vanishing-island-pg-photogallery.html

https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...e-bay-thanks-climate-change-389131.html?amp=1

http://www.jstor.org/stable/4297845?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

 

[Der Eisbär]

Her me you go! Pretty sure this won’t change your made up mind though.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/...refugees.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/green/bal-vanishing-island-pg-photogallery.html

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/2015/11/13/smith-island-sinking-chesapeake-bay-thanks-climate-change-389131.html?amp=1

http://www.jstor.org/stable/4297845?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

People are so ignorant to reality sometimes it's baffling.

 

[7437]

The video you posted was of flooding during the monsoon season.

Weather =/= climate

You have yet to show an example of a "climate refugee". I'm not deflecting in the least, you just have yet to show the evidence for your claim.

You want to see evidence of climare change that in no way involves the weather?

 

[Pinyin]

Because it actually impacts national security.

 

[Darkballs]

Been less that 24-hours since you last quoted me.

I'm in your head powerline boy.

 

[curryjunkie]

http://bigthink.com/laurie-vazquez/climate-change-gets-an-unlikely-ally-in-the-us-military
“Stresses from climate change can increase the likelihood of international or civil conflict, state failure, mass migration and instability in strategically significant areas around the world, the defense experts argue,”
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...erts-climate-change-significant-security-risk
https://www.propublica.org/article/...es-climate-change-national-security-challenge
those pesky facts gettin in the way again

 

[whougonnacall]

Throwing money to the government who will then throw it at the problem in the least efficient manner will not have any positive effect on the climate.

Aah the right wing mantra of private sector always more efficent ..cool

 

[Striker Fox]

 

[no fat chicks]

1 dudes words vs mountains of data and evidence. . .

 

[Striker Fox]

1 dudes words vs mountains of data and evidence. . .

There's a lot more out there than one guy's (scientist) words...

I don't have an opinion one way or the other, but for random's like the TS of this thread to think they have any clue on this subject is preposterous.

 

[Scheme]

global warming is liberal hoax. all of the politicians paid by fossil fuel companies say so. climate goes in a cycle and such.

I have yet to see anybody argue why global warming is worse for humanity than not having any global warming.

Global cooling will happen, we will hit the next Ice Age (humans can't keep burning fossil fuels because we are scheduled to run out in the next century or so), and humanity will be greatly culled. We will have way less livable land, less food, less energy, etc. Essentially once the next Ice Age hits, we will just have less everything, including population.

And I have yet to see any data that suggests that anthropomorphic global warming results in any permanent damage to the Earth, and not temporary damage that is regulated by the Earth's systems.

Essentially, assuming we will run out of fossil fuels and oil (we will), then none of this is really a big issue. There are way bigger, more realistic problems to worry about: garbage in the ocean, deforestation, lack of reliable sources of energy in the future and of course, the root of all evil, overpopulation. As long as the Earth is overpopulated it wont matter what we do, humanity will suffer.

China was the only country with the wherewithal to implement a policy (at least publicly) to combat overpopulation, but with their culture there were many negative consequences that made them get rid of it.

 

[FIMN]

There's a lot more out there than one guy's (scientist) words...

I don't have an opinion one way or the other, but for random's like the TS of this thread to think they have any clue on this subject is preposterous.

Assuming the evidence isn't compelling for the sake of argument (which I find unconvincing) and that there is a doubt over the extent and severity of climate change, is it not prudent given what is at stake to take actions based on worst or nearly worst case scenario, to ensure our readiness in case the vast majority of climate scientists are correct?

I'm failing to see the advantage of not adequately preparing for what the data says is likely going to result in more extreme weather patterns, climate refugees, ecological collapse and rising sea levels?

The cost of preparing extensively and predictions being overstated would be absolutely miniscule to the cost of underpreparing and getting fucked later, surely?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

But you already knew he was stupid so this won't come as a surprise.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/18/trump-drop-climate-change-national-security-strategy



Reinforces the confirmed fact that Trump is stupid enough to enact legislations that will permanently harm our country and leave the cleaning up of the mess to the next few presidents who come after him. How many of your numbskulls are defending this asshole still????

It's not Trump that's stupid, science is stupid.
In much the same way as his best people aren't stupid, the positions they're in are stupid.

 

[Post Mortem]

I'm from Wisconsin. I live in california. I like snow in the winter. Can i be a climate refugee?

 

[Throttlehead]

So are you now willing to concede that there's no such thing as a "climate refugee"?

There is you moron, do some studying, the google is your friend.

 

[HIMBOB]

Her me you go! Pretty sure this won’t change your made up mind though.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/...refugees.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/green/bal-vanishing-island-pg-photogallery.html

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/2015/11/13/smith-island-sinking-chesapeake-bay-thanks-climate-change-389131.html?amp=1

http://www.jstor.org/stable/4297845?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Save your effort. Some people are too stupid to learn.

 

[Teen Wolf]

I’m sure all the pollution in the world doesn’t do that much damage and will sort itself out...

 

[JonnyRingo84]

I have yet to see anybody argue why global warming is worse for humanity than not having any global warming.

lol, well that shows youve made 0 attempts at any real research on the matter. you're just swept along by which ever pundit you've chosen to listen to that day.

Global cooling will happen, we will hit the next Ice Age (humans can't keep burning fossil fuels because we are scheduled to run out in the next century or so), and humanity will be greatly culled. We will have way less livable land, less food, less energy, etc. Essentially once the next Ice Age hits, we will just have less everything, including population.

well....looks like you have it all figured out. you're certainly qualified to make such claims.

And I have yet to see any data that suggests that anthropomorphic global warming results in any permanent damage to the Earth, and not temporary damage that is regulated by the Earth's systems.

regulated by earth's systems? you mean like your chlorine in the pool? piss in it enough, and even your chlorine wont work.

Essentially, assuming we will run out of fossil fuels and oil (we will), then none of this is really a big issue.

well shucks. i guess that settles it.

China was the only country with the wherewithal to implement a policy (at least publicly) to combat overpopulation, but with their culture there were many negative consequences that made them get rid of it.

nah youre silly. youre talking out of your ass.

china is in stage 3 right now. their birth rate will inevitably drop, as will the rest of the world's in time. the world population is expected to level off around 12 billion, and begin shrinking. we'll all be like japan and italy, with a higher death rate than birth rate.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Her me you go! Pretty sure this won’t change your made up mind though.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/...refugees.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/green/bal-vanishing-island-pg-photogallery.html

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/2015/11/13/smith-island-sinking-chesapeake-bay-thanks-climate-change-389131.html?amp=1

http://www.jstor.org/stable/4297845?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

<Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

Soil erosion is your evidence of climate change?

You're aware soil erosion and small islands "sinking" into the sea over time is a natural occurrence that has been happening long before humanity ever existed, correct?