Trump to pardon the Hammonds (catalysts for the Bundy stand off)

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  1. PolishHeadlock

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    This will encourage good behavior from these crazies...

    https://apnews.com/7060f760f76f4608a72359f2ddcc98be

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned two ranchers whose case sparked the armed occupation of a national wildlife refuge in Oregon.

    Dwight and Steven Hammond were convicted in 2012 of intentionally and maliciously setting fires on public lands. The arson crime carried a minimum prison sentence of five years, but a sympathetic federal judge, on his last day before retirement, decided the penalty was too stiff and gave the father and son much lighter prison terms.

    Prosecutors won an appeal and the Hammonds were resentenced in October 2015 to serve the mandatory minimum.

    The decision sparked a protest from Ammon Bundy and dozens of others, who occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near the Hammond ranch in southeastern Oregon from Jan. 2 to Feb. 11, 2016, complaining the Hammonds were victims of federal overreach.

    The armed occupiers changed the refuge’s name to the Harney County Resource Center, reflecting their belief that the federal government has only a very limited right to own property within a state’s borders.

    Bundy was arrested during a Jan. 26 traffic stop, effectively ending the protest. Another key occupier, Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, was fatally shot that day by Oregon State Police.

    In a statement Tuesday, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders called that decision to resentence the Hammonds “unjust.”

    “The Hammonds are devoted family men, respected contributors to their local community, and have widespread support from their neighbors, local law enforcement, and farmers and ranchers across the West,” she said. “Justice is overdue for Dwight and Steven Hammond, both of whom are entirely deserving of these Grants of Executive Clemency.”

    The pardons are the latest in a growing list of clemency actions by Trump, who has been using his pardon power with increasingly frequency in recent months.

    Trump has been especially pleased with news coverage of his actions, which included commuting the sentence of Alice Johnson, a woman serving a life sentence for drug offenses whose case had been championed by reality television star Kim Kardashian West.

    He has repeatedly referenced emotional video of Johnson being freed from prison and running into her family members’ arms, and has said he’s considering thousands more cases — both famous and not.

    But critics say the president could be ignoring valid claims for clemency as he works outside the typical pardon process, focusing on cases brought to his attention by friends, famous people and conservative media pundits.

    Aides say that Trump has been especially drawn to cases in which he believes the prosecution may have been politically motivated — a situation that may remind him of his own position at the center of the ongoing special counsel investigation into Russian election meddling.

    Many have also seen the president as sending a signal with his pardons to former aides and associates caught up in the probe, or lashing out at enemies like former FBI Director James Comey, who oversaw the prosecution of lifestyle guru Martha Stewart, whom Trump has said he is thinking of pardoning.
     
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    Law and order president.
     
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    Take that libtards. Arson on public land makes you so mad, it will be so fun to see your reactions. Not Being on Fire BTFO!
     
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    OeuvrePressure Titanium Belt

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    Different culture, hard to judge.
    He should not have done this, it was a wrong thing to do
     
  6. BudKing8806

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    I got no problem with this.
     
  7. Rational Poster

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    So you like arson?

    Anything at your place that I can set on fire?
     
  8. woodguyatl

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    Arson on public lands shouldn’t be a crime?
     
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    Great pardon. What the feds did to that family was wrong then and it is wrong now.
     
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    No big deal! When has fire ever killed anyone?
     
  11. BudKing8806

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    I could use the insurance $$ lol. Just make sure I'm not inside!
     
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    I cant remember all of the details, but wasn't the land theirs to begin with and the govt basically forced them off it?
     
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    No it's been government land since before any of these people were born and they're just salty because they can't graze on it since they don't own it.
     
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    Rightwingers do not care about rule of law, everything is ok for their team.
     
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    The Truth About the Oregon Rancher standoff:


    Using anti-terrorism laws to prosecute a brush fire that got a little out of control is clearly Federal overreach.

    BTW, for those who don't know, range fires are a necessary part of any natural cycle in grasslands. Not only is it necessary to promote new growth, but it actually increases the value of land.
     
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    Well, then fuck em.
     
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  18. Edison Carasio

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    Would it be ok for people in the inner city to burn down their neighborhoods when they are booted by imminent domain?
     
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    Saw this. Really dumb move by Trump. Arson is no laughing matter (California and Montana wildfires last season had a start in human made fires) and definitely not the right image you want to push that this type of governmental pushback is allowed, but the simple angry words and “you can’t eat here” to Trump’s gov is crossing the line
     
  20. curryjunkie

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    expect more of this signalling to his base in the run up to midterms
     
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