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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by ortizgnp, Apr 16, 2018.
Prime Silva beats Cliffy 99/100. Both wins complete flukes.
this may not be a popular opinion but I wouldn't have minded a 3rd fight there.
yes chris was winning both fights but both were short, Anderson was clowning in the 1st and then a freak injury early in the 2nd. still don't feel like that whole thing got settled once and for all.
Yeah I thought original post said to put USADA aside... I don’t consider Anderson or Jones to be goats because of that asterisk, but that has nothing to do with this thread.
Prime Anderson (From Leben to Forrest fight) mails ANY version of Weidman.
There was a decline in Anderson after the Griffin fight. His “Prime” was from Leben fight to the Forrest fight. Weidman gets destroyed by that version of Anderson.
prime anderson could do anything mousasi did to chris....
No one beats prime Anderson every time. Honestly in MMA it would be hard to even beat a bum every single time. Too much can happen and Anderson was by far the most lethal fighter to ever compete in the UFC, he could end a fight instantly with just about any part of his body.
That said, I agree that Chris is basically a better Sonnen. He is a nightmare matchup for Anderson, but I think that Chris' striking has been exposed at this point. Anderson in his prime would beat Chris pretty easily standing up, but if the fight went to the ground he'd definitely lose. It would be a coin toss based mostly on how much grappling was involved.
False. Anderson could have easily killed Weidman in '84 when he was 9 and the Chris was an infant
anderson beat himself the 2 times first
u know whenever theres some dominant fighter (or athlete in any sport for that matter) i almost never want them to lose partially because you just know whoever beats team is not going to be worthy of all the praise that comes with being the one to beat the unbeatable one
Yup, it’s very rare that the one who actually beats them becomes that great. Jones/Shogun and GSP/Hughes are the exception.
That Anderson couldn’t even finish Leites.
That was a bitter pill to swallow for a while. For what it's worth (not much, I'd imagine), I still feel like their first fight was Anderson's to lose, and he found a way to do just that. I think he could've won, and I don't feel that he was outclassed so much as he was trying to play his game too hard. Maybe it was because he really didn't think he could win any other way, or maybe he was simply too full of himself and thought Chris was "beneath him", being just 9-0 at the time. But whatever the case, I can't call it a fluke anymore. Just a sore spot.
The Chris does have Andersons number. That being said, a prime Anderson can put any man’s lights out. I think that in his prime he would wax Whitaker, Rockhold and any other mw not named Weidman or Romero. He could beat several lhws as well.
I question myself a lot because of his roid past. But i believe that roids can get you so far, that shit doesnt give you a chin, heart, reflexes, precise punches, killer clinch, etc. You could tell that trtor was a monsta because the guy looked like a fuckin mutant as well, but Anderson was a skinny fat guy. Im torn on whether roids helped a lot or not and if he actually took them all the time.
That being said, him and Jones are off my goats list forever, as much as it hurts me.
Don't forget slow Travis Lutter took Anderson down at will, over and over, getting into full mount or whatever position he wanted. Made it look easy.
Here's Weidman taking down Anderson in similar fashion as Lutter.
Even having said that. Anderson finds ways to win, and I could see him winning a bunch if they fought 100 times.
True and anyone that says otherwise is a preteen nuthugger retard
Chris has an advantage over him for sure, way better wrestling
Vanderlei/Sakuraba as well.