Tony wins this, Khabib too one-dimensional!?

[Alxair]

Even if we acted like all there is to Khabib is his ground game, it hasn't stopped him so far. We've seen how a guy like Barboza who statistically is great at takedown defense got completely ragdolled and beaten to a dominant decision. Khabib just walked right through him, no chance for Barboza and you're not going to convince me Barboza wasn't aware that Khabib is going for the takedown <45>

To know what's coming is a good start but it hardly means you're able to stop it. Besides, a guy at 25-0 doesn't get to that point with simply being a one trick pony. I think Tony is obviously much more dangerous than Barboza on his back(well duh, ones a striker and the other one is much more versatile and known for doing damage off his back) but I still think there is a good reason why Khabib is the slight favorite here and why people fear him.

 

[MusterX]

Even if we acted like all there is to Khabib is his ground game, it hasn't stopped him so far. We've seen how a guy like Barboza who statistically is great at takedown defense got completely ragdolled and beaten to a dominant decision. Khabib just walked right through him, no chance for Barboza and you're not going to convince me Barboza wasn't aware that Khabib is going for the takedown <45>

To know what's coming is a good start but it hardly means you're able to stop it. Besides, a guy at 25-0 doesn't get to that point with simply being a one trick pony. I think Tony is obviously much more dangerous than Barboza on his back(well duh, ones a striker and the other one is much more versatile and known for doing damage off his back) but I still think there is a good reason why Khabib is the slight favorite here and why people fear him.

Khabib is 25-0, he's going to be the favorite but I'm not convinced he walks through El Cucuy. Everyone keeps talking about Tony's elbows off his back but the problem is that has not been his most deadly tool set. He has submitted 6 of his last 10 opponents. That is really hard to do at the UFC level. I would not be surprised at all to see Tony hit a Brabo choke on Khabib during one of his many take down attempts. Then again, I woldn't be surprised to see Khabib do what he does either. This fight is a toss up IMO, slightly favoring Khabib but not enough to be sure who will win.

 

[Danielator]

It is a tremendous fight, and Khabib may destroy, but don't be surprised if he doesn't. El Cucuy is 10 times better on the mat than MJ or Barboza and he's better standing than Khabib as well.

I agree!

 

[Ironman70.3]

ok, am I not seeing this through correctly?

I've finally seen khabib vs barboza fight and ... he's great and all but its just wrestling and gnp. Nothing else is impressive.

Tony, will be 100% ready for gnp and takedowns and he's amazing on ground as well.

I just think Tony has too much to offer here. good striking, creative, amazing cardio etc.

Khabib is amazing at takedown but what if ... what if ... Tony ... like ... actually will be ready and prepared for them!? what can Khabib offer if his gnp isn't enough to finish Tony in early rounds. Barboza seemed to survive this mythical gnp from Khabib.

... am I not seeing something in Khabib that everyone else is seeing or I'm the only one that values facts over speculations. Facts are ... Tony is just too well rounded and has a much better cardio. Who knows what can happen is this fight goes past round 3. Khabib never did anything past round 3, and he never fought anyone like Tony.

People also view GSP as one dimensional and look how dominant he was. The majority still couldn't stop him.

 

[Kumason]

Khabib will probably go in as a slight favorite, but it should be a Pick-Em fight imo.

I'll only be disappointed if the fight ends early or by DQ. I hope they fight to an exciting draw so they can rematch in Russia leaving McNuggets on the outside.

He's about -250 after lots of movement.

 

[RemyR]

The “one-dimensional” argument is fucking stupid.

Im actually an amateur fighter myself, and I’d wager my stand up quite a bit better than let’s say Jordan Boroughs.

 

[Chok Sok Te]

It doesn’t matter how prepareda fighter thinks they are. They know what Khabib does and they still can’t prevent it

 

[ritchest_eva]

Tony is a much more well rounded fighter I agree with you there... question to be answered is that Khabib is so good at his one thing of take down and GNP that it won’t matter how well rounded tony is... I’m hoping tony wins the fight

 

[wirerat123]

I don't pretend to know what is going to happen in this fight, its too close. Either could win. You should be careful though because you might be the one that gets embarrassed.

It's not going to embarrass me lol. Tony thinks he'l be ready for Khabib. So has everyone else. Tony doesn't have the style to beat Khabib more than maybe 1 or 2 fluke wins out of 10.

 

[WinZip]

Khabib too one-dimensional!?

Dude has 8 KOs and 8 Subs.
And a good chin.
And great TDs.
And Judo.
And wrestling.
That's enough dimensions for me.

How's his stand-up game?

Oh. Right.

 

[dertdent]

People seem to exclude the possibility that Tony might hurt Khabib before the takedown. Tony's not going to fight scared and be afraid to throw hands because of fear of being taken down. Khabib never really has been caught pressing forward with his combinations when he's looking to shoot. I want to see how his game changes(or not) if Tony stings him with a right or an elbow to the nose.

 

[Hotora86]

How's his stand-up game?

Oh. Right.

Good enough to take you down and pound you to a pulp.
So yeah.

 

[number 9]

 

[fortheo]

Who cares. Conor is laughing at those guys, he knows he's the actual champ. He knows he's got far superior stand up, and decent takedown defence. He's litterally laughing right now, picking and choosing.

He's laughing because all the contenders just take themselves out while the ufc allows him to sit on his ass and call himself LW champ.

 

[20falarVerdades]

Tony can win, but i think Khabib will drop him and then finish him on the ground

 

[Ilovepizza]

Khabib too one-dimensional!?

Dude has 8 KOs and 8 Subs.
And a good chin.
And great TDs.
And Judo.
And wrestling.
That's enough dimensions for me.

even this guy has 7 tko/kos and 8 subs
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[fortheo]

Yea, I'm not so sure its end of story. In 9 UFC fights, Khabib has gone to decision 5 times. He has failed to finish much lesser fighters than El Cucuy.

Almost all of those fights were in the bag after khabib first conserved dominant position and landed gnp. Khabib landing ground and pound is a game changer. Maybe not game over as the other guy mentioned, though.

 

[WinZip]

Good enough to take you down and pound you to a pulp.
So yeah.

So striking is grappling now?

That's about what I expect from a Khabib nut hugger

 

[Ilovepizza]

Even if we acted like all there is to Khabib is his ground game, it hasn't stopped him so far. We've seen how a guy like Barboza who statistically is great at takedown defense got completely ragdolled and beaten to a dominant decision. Khabib just walked right through him, no chance for Barboza and you're not going to convince me Barboza wasn't aware that Khabib is going for the takedown <45>

To know what's coming is a good start but it hardly means you're able to stop it. Besides, a guy at 25-0 doesn't get to that point with simply being a one trick pony. I think Tony is obviously much more dangerous than Barboza on his back(well duh, ones a striker and the other one is much more versatile and known for doing damage off his back) but I still think there is a good reason why Khabib is the slight favorite here and why people fear him.

Umg ... at the and of the day, I dont care who is one dimensional ... as long as hes successful?! Look at Gus => jones is far moooore well rounded and look what Gus did to him LOL

 

[Hotora86]

So striking is grappling now?

That's about what I expect from a Khabib nut hugger