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Tom Cruise's AMERICAN MADE (Dragonlord's Review)
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Should have had more time-traveling Emily Blunt.
It's an okay film that's elevated by the cast and style; Tom Cruise is essentially playing an Owen Wilson level character. Who's the Owen Wilson of the south? Wait, ain't he from Texas? Like, Walt Goggins could have really made this role.
Given the narrative, there's no tension so I felt they would have been better off amping up the humor instead of the almost-distracting amount of swearing.
Dragon rating this movie over KINGSMAN2 leads me to believe there's more "expectation" factor at work with him.
It's an okay film that's elevated by the cast and style; Tom Cruise is essentially playing an Owen Wilson level character. Who's the Owen Wilson of the south? Wait, ain't he from Texas? Like, Walt Goggins could have really made this role.
Given the narrative, there's no tension so I felt they would have been better off amping up the humor instead of the almost-distracting amount of swearing.
Dragon rating this movie over KINGSMAN2 leads me to believe there's more "expectation" factor at work with him.
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I just noticed that the poll has me rating it as a 1 when I tried to give it a 4
Another reason this movie sucks, its stupid Sherdog thread is malfunctioning
Another reason this movie sucks, its stupid Sherdog thread is malfunctioning
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I'd be down for that.
Funny note: Back when the first Captain America came out, I made a bet through a sportsbook on how much money it would make opening weekend. If I remember right, I got $60-$65 million at +300 and it ended up making $63 million. Cha-ching!
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I love Speed Racer also.
I've had to defend Speed Racer a few times on here.
Where were you when I needed you?
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So disappointed you've become one of them. Thought you were better than this. No worries, I still love ya. Mwah.
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I've edited it so you can change your votes.
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Who's the "them?"
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Ok. I'll try to set it up next week and send some invites.
Nice. What we'll be doing is pretty basic in that we're just going to predict the 3-day opening weekend for a nationwide released movie.
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Honestly do not care for Tom Cruise generic action movies...sorry
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I'll PM you.
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Just domestic or global?
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Domestic only.
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Critics Reviews for AMERICAN MADE
ROTTEN TOMATOES: 87% Approval Rating (149 out of 172 critics like it)
CRITICS CONSENSUS: American Made's fast-and-loose attitude with its real-life story mirrors the cavalier -- and delightfully watchable -- energy Tom Cruise gives off in the leading role.
Entertainment Weekly [9/26] - Seal is not a likable guy exactly. He's actually kind of a greedy, amoral dirtbag. Which is why Liman and screenwriter Gary Spinelli need someone like Cruise to sell him. And sell him he does. He’s playing that quintessential American type: a jerk who’s so entertaining to watch, you almost hate yourself for rooting for him. Cruise should lose control more often. B+
Newsday [9/28] - Cruise doesn’t seem fully suited to the role of lovable reprobate, but he knows how to capture an adrenaline rush and his charisma is, as ever, undimmed. Liman directs with plenty of pizzazz, though some thoughtful moments would have been nice as well. 2.5/4
James Berardinelli [9/28] - American Made is breezy and fun and makes its points without subjecting the viewer to a browbeating. This is essentially Cruise in action star mode and, as such, he’s compulsively watchable. The screenplay is quirky enough to resemble an unfinished Coen Brothers narrative but mainstream enough to appeal to a broad audience. 3/4
Rolling Stone [9/28] - The film may be fact-based but that doesn't stop it from feeling generic, like you've seen it all before. The big difference is that Cruise is spreading his starshine over this one and that (still) counts for something. Thanks to director Doug Liman, this stranger-than-fiction drama whooshes by – just not so fast that a stultifying sense of sameness doesn't stall it. 2.5/4
Richard Roeper [9/28] - Doug Liman’s “American Made” is a fast-paced, breezy and mostly upbeat action-comedy-thriller that turns the likes of Escobar and Noriega into laugh-producing supporting players — and somehow manages to pull off that trick without offensively minimizing the evil ways of those legendarily ruthless drug kingpins. 3.5/4
ROTTEN TOMATOES: 87% Approval Rating (149 out of 172 critics like it)
CRITICS CONSENSUS: American Made's fast-and-loose attitude with its real-life story mirrors the cavalier -- and delightfully watchable -- energy Tom Cruise gives off in the leading role.
Entertainment Weekly [9/26] - Seal is not a likable guy exactly. He's actually kind of a greedy, amoral dirtbag. Which is why Liman and screenwriter Gary Spinelli need someone like Cruise to sell him. And sell him he does. He’s playing that quintessential American type: a jerk who’s so entertaining to watch, you almost hate yourself for rooting for him. Cruise should lose control more often. B+
Newsday [9/28] - Cruise doesn’t seem fully suited to the role of lovable reprobate, but he knows how to capture an adrenaline rush and his charisma is, as ever, undimmed. Liman directs with plenty of pizzazz, though some thoughtful moments would have been nice as well. 2.5/4
James Berardinelli [9/28] - American Made is breezy and fun and makes its points without subjecting the viewer to a browbeating. This is essentially Cruise in action star mode and, as such, he’s compulsively watchable. The screenplay is quirky enough to resemble an unfinished Coen Brothers narrative but mainstream enough to appeal to a broad audience. 3/4
Rolling Stone [9/28] - The film may be fact-based but that doesn't stop it from feeling generic, like you've seen it all before. The big difference is that Cruise is spreading his starshine over this one and that (still) counts for something. Thanks to director Doug Liman, this stranger-than-fiction drama whooshes by – just not so fast that a stultifying sense of sameness doesn't stall it. 2.5/4
Richard Roeper [9/28] - Doug Liman’s “American Made” is a fast-paced, breezy and mostly upbeat action-comedy-thriller that turns the likes of Escobar and Noriega into laugh-producing supporting players — and somehow manages to pull off that trick without offensively minimizing the evil ways of those legendarily ruthless drug kingpins. 3.5/4
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Update: October 1, 2017
IT, KINGSMAN 2 and AMERICAN MADE in Close Tight Race at the Box Office
There's definitely a need for a recount at the North American box office.
According to Sunday estimates, horror blockbuster It narrowly beat Kingsman: The Golden Circle and Doug Liman's new film American Made — starring Tom Cruise — with $17.3 million, compared to an estimated $17 million for the other two films.
The official order won't be determined until Monday morning when final weekend grosses are tallied. Some rival studios show New Line Cinema and Warner Bros.' It and Fox's Kingsman tying with $17 million each, and Universal's American Made coming in slightly behind.
Either way, It remains a phenomenon in its fourth weekend, ending Sunday with a domestic haul of $291 million. Overseas, it took in $35.6 million from 64 markets for $262 million abroad and $533.2 million globally. The film is responsible for fueling record September revenue after a brutal August.
British filmmaker Matthew Vaughn's Kingsman sequel beat It overseas with $50 million from 77 markets for a 12-day worldwide total of $192.7 million, including $66.7 million in North America.
Weekend Box Office: 'It' Squeaks by 'American Made,' 'Kingsman' With $17.3 Million
IT, KINGSMAN 2 and AMERICAN MADE in Close Tight Race at the Box Office
There's definitely a need for a recount at the North American box office.
According to Sunday estimates, horror blockbuster It narrowly beat Kingsman: The Golden Circle and Doug Liman's new film American Made — starring Tom Cruise — with $17.3 million, compared to an estimated $17 million for the other two films.
The official order won't be determined until Monday morning when final weekend grosses are tallied. Some rival studios show New Line Cinema and Warner Bros.' It and Fox's Kingsman tying with $17 million each, and Universal's American Made coming in slightly behind.
Either way, It remains a phenomenon in its fourth weekend, ending Sunday with a domestic haul of $291 million. Overseas, it took in $35.6 million from 64 markets for $262 million abroad and $533.2 million globally. The film is responsible for fueling record September revenue after a brutal August.
British filmmaker Matthew Vaughn's Kingsman sequel beat It overseas with $50 million from 77 markets for a 12-day worldwide total of $192.7 million, including $66.7 million in North America.
Weekend Box Office: 'It' Squeaks by 'American Made,' 'Kingsman' With $17.3 Million
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How do you think discount programs like Movie Pass affect the box office totals?
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According to Wiki, there are 400,000 Movie Pass subscribers. But I don't really know how much it affects the box office totals. I'll let our box office expert @JBSchroeds try to answer this.
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That's sort of tough to quantify. You have to look at the user base and how often they use the program. So, lets try and get a good estimate of how many "free" tickets they are using:
-Lets say around a quarter of the users are very infrequent and only take advantage of it once every other month: 400k * 0.25 * 6 = 600k
-Lets say half use it about once a month: 400k * 0.5 * 12 = 2400k
-Lets say 20% use it about twice a month: 400k * 0.2 * 24 = 1920k
-And for the final 5% they see a movie every week: 400k * 0.05 * 52 = 1040k
That totals out to 5.96mil tickets in a year. Sounds like a lot, but is it? Lets estimate how many tickets are sold for all movies in a single year. In 2016 the total domestic boxoffice was about $11.2bil with an average ticket price of about $8.61 a pop, which works out to about 1.3bil tickets sold. If our 5.96mil discount tickets are accurate then that's less than one half of one percent. So for a movie that makes 200mil they'd be missing out on less than 1mil of full price tickets.
It looks like the answer, currently, is that the effect isn't all that big. But it also won't be spread equally across all films: an indie that loses out on a full price ticket will feel that effect more than a tent-pole. But then there's the other side of the equation, where would that person have gone for a full priced ticket at all? So are they actually losing anything, or are they gaining a little? That's almost impossible to quantify without really in-depth usage and polling statistics, of which I have neither. My gut says that currently these programs have very little effect on the studios bottom line.
