TKO by illegal elbows?

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  1. Epicness Brown Belt

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    Just watched the first episode, Roxanne dropped like 15 12-6 elbows in a row and got a tko win? Wtf was that shit?
     
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    Shitty refereeing as was the stoppage.

    I mean seriously, wtf else was she meant to do in that position? She moved, she tried to get out of it but just couldn't, and it's clear she was fine, no cuts, no real damage when she jumped straight up after..

    A dumb referee stopping it because of a lack of intelligent defense, the irony.
     
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    I think in situations like that the match should be restarted in the same position that
     
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    Someone doesn't know the definition of "12 to 6 elbows" lol

    Her elbows were 100% legal

    Also, great stoppage. See Nelson vs Kimbo and Lauzon vs Florian. You can't take unanswered shots forever and expect the fight to continue, even if the fighter is not badly hurt
     
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    I thought the stoppage was a bit early but I agree there was nothing illegal about those elbows.
     
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    She brought them from the side, like a chicken wing style elbow. Completely legal. And the stoppage was good, the ref gave the fighter plenty of time to escape and she showed she either did not know how or simply couldn't.
     
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    Elbows were legal.

    12-6 only refers to a very specific kind of elbow strike where the forearm is perpendicular to the mat and comes down at a 90 degree angle. Any different angle or any kind of arc while the strike is being thrown makes it legal. It's a retarded rule that should be eliminated, but as long as it is still around, refs will continue to minimize it's impact by calling it only under extremely specific conditions.

    Stoppage was fine.

    Fights aren't only stopped when a fighter is getting physically wrecked. They are also stopped when a fighter proves to be completely helpless to defend themselves, even if they aren't taking any devastating damage. Dobson had nothing for Roxy on the ground. She was told multiple times to improve her position and couldn't even come close to doing it. Roxy landed more damaging shots than Roy Nelson landed in many of his TUF 10 stoppages where he crucifixed his opponents and then lightly tapped them on the head until the ref stopped the fight.
     
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