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[AlexDB9]

Huh? These dumb fucks at time don't even know the difference between the kremlin and st basil cathedral...what is it supposed to mean that the White House is turning Christian?

 

[RockstarChris]

why are they making the white house looke like a mosque?

 

[Space]

why are they making the white house looke like a mosque?

Freudian slip.

 

[Whippy McGee]

.... journalism is dead.

They have no facts, no evidence, nothing to link the White House to Russian influence.

Where was Time Magazine and the Liberal Media when this happened?



... and then Obama did NOTHING when the Syrians backed by Russia crossed his "Red Line", but Trump on the other hand bombed the shit out them pissing off Russia.

So dumb.

 

[steelcity77]

You know it's bad when your own side is openly wondering wtf is going on with your drama

'your own side' :facepalm: ... trump doesn't have a side .. forgot the primaries where they were panicking at the thought of trump being nominated ?

 

[steelcity77]

I heard that Gay Fancy Magazine is about to release a 12-page centerfold pictorial next week of Trump sucking daddy Putin's dick and getting bottomed wearing a gimp outfit without his fox hair wig on. Good luck denying the collusion then.

trump derangement syndrome

Here is a picture of McCain, Graham, and Rubio discussing together in their natural habitat.

bingo

 

[steelcity77]

I think this is where we differ. I think Comey will equivocate according to his habit of trying to play things down the middle. I think he will stop far short of supporting the notion that Trump obstructed justice but nonetheless mildly censure Trump for even making comments about the investigation.

But yes, the allegations are serious, and Comey's testimony will be key.

comey's credibility is shot .. nothing will come of his testimony .. he already said there was no coercion .. he knows what his testimony will be

 

[steelcity77]

.... journalism is dead.

They have no facts, no evidence, nothing to link the White House to Russian influence.

Where was Time Magazine and the Liberal Media when this happened?



... and then Obama did NOTHING when the Syrians backed by Russia crossed his "Red Line", but Trump on the other hand bombed the shit out them pissing off Russia.

So dumb.

anti trump brigade blown the fk out

 

[Deleted member 196663]

I haven't been following the whole Russia/Trump thing closely. Is there actually any evidence of Trump and Russia having abnormal ties or what? From everything I've seen, it's just been a bunch of crazy far left people grasping at straws to find small things about Trump and nit-pick them.

This. I'm clueless, but I suspect it's partisan sensationalizing.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

comey's credibility is shot .. nothing will come of his testimony .. he already said there was no coercion .. he knows what his testimony will be

Once again, there's just no there there. The most insubstantial political witch hunt of my lifetime.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

'your own side' :facepalm: ... trump doesn't have a side .. forgot the primaries where they were panicking at the thought of trump being nominated ?

Trump has a side, don't be dense

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

I doubt very much that his memo is explicitly damning for two reasons.
1. What we've had reported as hearsay about the memo wasn't particularly damning. It certainly didn't sound like a direct order to halt the investigation into Flynn, and Comey obviously didn't take it that way, because he didn't halt the investigation into Flynn.
2. If Comey thought Trump was obstructing justice, he had a duty to report it, and he didn't do that. Now he could say that Trump's message was sufficiently vague that he thought Trump could have been obstructing justice but wasn't sure, and so he didn't report it for that reason, but such an explanation leaves Trump plenty of wiggle room.

There's no doubt that we are all speculating and we'll have to wait and see what Comey says.

I have two additional thoughts on the matter, which are:

Between Trump's potentially criminal conversation with Comey in the affair with Flynn and Bill Clinton's potentially criminal conversation with Loretta Lynch related to the investigation into his wife, there's a disturbing disregard for , at a bare minimum, the appearance of propriety. Even if neither did anything wrong, it looks so bad that erodes public trust. And public trust in our political institutions is something our political elites seem to take for granted, but once it is gone it is very hard to rebuild.

If Comey testifies and takes down Trump, he will have destroyed the political prospects of the Democratic nominee and the Republican nominee. J. Edgar Hoover served under five (four?) presidents, none of whom trusted him but none f whom dared to cross him. I don't think that kind of power should necessarily rest with an unelected official, who cannot be fired by an elected official without massive political fallout. Both Dem and Republican voters have called for Comey's head, yet firing him may have been a bridge too far. Whatever Trump's fate, he may well deserve it, but we shouldn't overlook how poorly Comey has behaved in using these well archived memos as political payback.

1. That's the thing, he didn't halt the investigation into Flynn, which along with what is purported to be in the memo, appears to be the reason why he was fired by Trump. The firing is what makes the previous inappropriate suggestions something more than they were at the time.
2. Along the lines of number 1, the firing is what makes things different, and gives Trump less wiggle room, especially since he told Lester Holt (and the Russians, according to leaks) that he fired him because of the Russia stuff. And, it sounds as if Comey might have tried to report it, but it didn't go anywhere. What that means is unclear, but will be clarified, and hopefully it is clarified in the public hearings.

As for your last two points, I have been thinking about the first one in terms of the glowing reviews both sides have for Mueller and for Lieberman. Hopefully (after the political train wrecks both parties have experienced over the past year) the powers that be will look to people like this, who are known to have integrity, to lead their parties. Maybe the bigger issue is that voters need to clear out the powers that be in both parties before anything like that can happen. It was nice to see Sanders and Kasich on stage together last week acting like reasonable grown ups, hopefully that is somewhat indicative of the future.

Secondly, I don't think Comey's actions were political payback, I don't think it is personal, I think they are what he thinks will be central to taking down the Trump camp. Comey seems like a quixotic guy (hence the "nut job" comment from Trump), and when he sees something he thinks is wrong, from someone like Trump (and/or his minions) who has no ethical principles that guide him beyond "winning," he feels it is his obligation to act. Fired or not, Comey was coming after Trump, which is why I think he was fired.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

1. That's the thing, he didn't halt the investigation into Flynn, which along with what is purported to be in the memo, appears to be the reason why he was fired by Trump. The firing is what makes the previous inappropriate suggestions something more than they were at the time.

It will be impossible to show that Comey was fired for that reason, given how many politicians were calling for his head from both sides of the aisle.

We've whipped ourselves into a frenzy over what an unnamed source said about a memo that no one has seen. Comey meanwhile did not half the investigation, and did not report the incident as an attempt at obstruction. Unless there is something far more substantial that we have yet to see, there's nothing much here.

Given the very flimsy evidence this is all based on, and given the constant media frenzy related to trump, including when he goes out to dinner and how many scoops of ice cream he gets, it is hard to see it as anything other than a witchhunt. My attitude on that will change swiftly when and if concrete evidence of wrongdoing is produced, which is usually required before this type of hysteria.

You don't have to be a Trump fan to see that this is a lose-lose situation, and I don't mean that Trump loses either way, though he may. I mean that the media is piddling away what little is left of their credibility trying desperately to find an actual scandal here and that isn't good for any of us in the era of fake news.

 

[Bat Dad]

Freudian slip.

its official
you have no clue what you are talking about

why don't you tell us all how this (with your extensive knowledge of psychology and philosophy (LOL)

how this is a freudian slip?

 

[Space]

its official
you have no clue what you are talking about

why don't you tell us all how this (with your extensive knowledge of psychology and philosophy (LOL)

how this is a freudian slip?

Lefties love Islam and want it to take over the world to kill off successful straight white men. Not a difficult concept.

 

[Bat Dad]

Lefties love Islam and want it to take over the world to kill off successful straight white men. Not a difficult concept.

and that is freudian how?
or did you just try to use a big boy word
to not sound like an incompetent puppet of the oligarchs

yeah
we all want islam to kill off "straight" white men

i bet your gay porn collection is amazing
im 99% sure you are one of those closeted gay men who speak hate to distract from your denial

its always those shouting the loudest with the most skeletons in their closet

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

It will be impossible to show that Comey was fired for that reason, given how many politicians were calling for his head from both sides of the aisle.

We've whipped ourselves into a frenzy over what an unnamed source said about a memo that no one has seen. Comey meanwhile did not half the investigation, and did not report the incident as an attempt at obstruction. Unless there is something far more substantial that we have yet to see, there's nothing much here.

Given the very flimsy evidence this is all based on, and given the constant media frenzy related to trump, including when he goes out to dinner and how many scoops of ice cream he gets, it is hard to see it as anything other than a witchhunt. My attitude on that will change swiftly when and if concrete evidence of wrongdoing is produced, which is usually required before this type of hysteria.

You don't have to be a Trump fan to see that this is a lose-lose situation, and I don't mean that Trump loses either way, though he may. I mean that the media is piddling away what little is left of their credibility trying desperately to find an actual scandal here and that isn't good for any of us in the era of fake news.

Yeah, I don't think there is going to be a ko blow with anything, but rather an accumulation of blows over time that bring down Trump down. You have Flynn in what appears to be real trouble, you have another senior white house who is a "person of interest," and now you have a special counsel digging into the various root systems of the Trump administration tree. And that is all we know about.

There has been Trump and Russia talk since before the election because of Trump's praise of Putin and unwillingness to say anything negative about him, and since then you had him bend over backwards in the O'Reilly interview to put America on equal terms with Putin's regime ("what you think we are so innocent"), you have had his National Security Advisor have to resign because he lied about his contact with Russia (and is currently under investigation by the FBI), the AG had to recuse himself because he lied to the senate about his contact with Russia, you had the Trump team be dishonest about the the reasons Comey was fired including them claiming it had nothing to do with the Russia investigation only to have Trump refute that in his Holt interview, you had Kislyak at a meeting in the white house and we only know he was there from Russian photographers (that were not supposed to publish the pictures) as US media was not allowed, and then Trump called Comey a "nut job" and say that firing him "relieved great pressure" on him, and he didn't even mention their attempts to influence the election with them. Plus, he blurted out (at best) highly classified information to them.

How can you think that this is a witch hunt? There may not be fire there, I will give you that, but there is more smoke than in the Diaz house on 4/20 at 4:20.

 

[Trotsky]

No there is no evidence and never will be. This is a nazi-style propaganda smear campaign where the strategy is just to repeat lies over and over. Facts and logic matter none when you just flood the conversation with lies 24/7.

lol @ "facts and logic" having any place in defense of Trump or his supporters when all the facts demonstrate his complete corruption and ineptitude and every bit of logic exposes how politically bankrupt and indefensible his policies are.

Would you care to share what "lies" are being repeated over and over? Also, since findings haven't been made public, can you also share with us how you know that "there is no evidence and never will be"?

 

[Strychnine]

No there is no evidence and never will be. This is a nazi-style propaganda smear campaign where the strategy is just to repeat lies over and over. Facts and logic matter none when you just flood the conversation with lies 24/7.

Because The Man Who Wants To Be Royalty will never release his taxes even after he said he would.

But...

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Iconic