TIME cover shows Trump towering over (immigrant) toddler

[Johnny Mac]

Saw a few funny ones going around:

Spoiler

LOL....I think my favorite is the one with Hulk Hogan!

 

[cottagecheesefan]

There are just as many posters who claim this is basically a left wing think tank, lol. Seriously.

The numbers are fairly close. That's why Homer won the "election" by a few votes, being a left wing poster. The left wing posters just do not like memes.

I'm not saying this site is a clear representation of the entire internet, but this site does count for something. These are real people, and they really post an awful lot of bullshit. I've also seen several studies conducted in the last few years that support what I am saying here, which is that the right really does consume more memes and conspiracies online. Every single thing, from my own personal experience to everything that I read, points the same conclusion, which is that this stuff leans right overall across the country. I've never seen or read any evidence that contradicts that. Trump basically ran on it, and even sent out plenty of bullshit personally.

I don't know what your last sentence is supposed to mean.

I don't say things without evidence, I can post as many examples as you want of right wing posters here not only posting fake stuff, but later proving they actually believed it. I can post the studies I'm referring to that show right wing consumes more fake stuff too. We can all choose to not believe it, but at least I'm basing this on something tangible.

I would like to see those studies. Is this time magazine article not a photoshop? Was it not being spread around all over social media? You are basing your observations on a sherdog meme thread lol. Most of the posts are by one or two posters. The same thing happens in every single sub forum on sherdog. Even in the esteem gif thread, there are 2 posters posting almost all the content, there are several posters asking them to stop.

I don't think I have ever seen this place called a liberal think tank. Maybe a few posters called liberal bots, but they are really just trolls who got banned, or currently have yellow cards. Just as right wing trolls/potential bots get banned and yellow carded.

This site literally counts for a very small fraction of the internet. Males, mostly white, mostly young, mostly combat sport/sport enthusiasts..

My last sentence means that of course the studies you read on your preferred news outlets will of course confirm what you want. Just like an article from breitbart confirms what a lot of posters on here want. What happens when TIME and CNN and report something, that turns out to be a photoshop depicting something false, like in this case? It isn't a MEME at all, it just represents something it clearly is not.

Meanwhile, breitbart was first reporting the fathers take, which has now been confirmed by multiple sources? I mean, go on to facebook right meow. You will see exactly what I am talking about. Facebook is a much larger sample, from a much more diverse population. I 100% you will not find one person praising Trump, and will only find people shitting on him. If you look at 50-100 posts that are related to politics.

 

[Darkballs]

You are a feckless liar. I haven't dodged that question a single time.

The father wasn't there. I never claimed he was there. The article I posted never claimed he was there. You are trying to distract from the point that you have made multiple demonstrably false claims about this case. You don't have the balls to admit your mistake.

And what exactly was my mistake? I said from the beginning that I didn't trust the father. You responded half a dozen times with some version of "but the father said..." while I reiterated my stance.

What exactly are you mad about? That I didn't immediately take the partisan bait like you did?

 

[glenwo2]

This picture is more accurate.

That is brilliant. I have to say.

 

[BrotherClaudio]

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[BrotherClaudio]

So brave.

The Trump administration's policy that effectively separated families crossing the US border has held up a big, glaring mirror to America's moral character. In TIME magazine's latest cover, the reflection is met with indifference in the face of human suffering.

In the stark photo illustration, the towering figure of Trump looms over a sobbing child, who is the subject of a now-iconic photograph taken recently by Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer John Moore.

"Welcome to America," the illustration reads.

Moore told the magazine he had to "stop and take deep breaths" after capturing the image of a two-year-old Honduran girl crying for her mother, who was being detained in McAllen, Texas.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/21/us/time-immigration-cover-june-magazine-trnd/index.html

Were they separated?

Cuck

 

[Darkballs]

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Can you link to the actual press story that ran this fake photo, or was this something you picked up in a meme factory?

 

[Darkballs]

dbl

 

[Darkballs]

Were they separated?

Yeah, somewhere between 2,000-3,000 kids were.

 

[Bargey]

ahoy Scheme,

it seemed pretty effective to me.

dramatic use of negative space against a field of red (the alarming color, aye?).

i thought it was funny that they decided to drop in some shadows in the ground, for "authenticity".

- IGIT

It looks to me like that editor must have been a Trump supporter, given the overall reaction or perhaps a really dumb leftist.

 

[waiguoren]

And what exactly was my mistake? I said from the beginning that I didn't trust the father

Is your memory completely shot? This started because @Seano called the TIME cover "pathetic." You responded with:

But not the actions of the President that caused that girl to be forcefully separated from her parents? That's a-ok with you. But a picture of trump, who responsible for it, next to a child affected by it, pathetic.

You guys couldn't have a more backwards moral compass if you tried.

So "from the beginning" you made a baseless claim. Then I posted the article about the father. You said you didn't believe the article because it came from Breitbart. Then you backtracked and attacked the father himself for not being present, saying it was the mother's word against the father's. Except it wasn't. There is no interview that you can post in which the mother says she was separated from her child. I offered you $50 to find that interview or any other evidence and you couldn't do it.

You responded half a dozen times with some version of "but the father said..."

Yeah, that never happened. You are scum.

What exactly are you mad about? That I didn't immediately take the partisan bait like you did?

Mad? I'm giddy! I just discovered you, the most dishonest War Room poster I have come across. You're going in my sig.

And lol at "partisan bait". Can you refute a single assertion of that article? Not a chance. That article is actually of higher quality than much of what the MSM has put out on this issue.

 

[IGIT]

It looks to me like that editor must have been a Trump supporter, given the overall reaction or perhaps a really dumb leftist.

hiya Bargey,

a leftist? you mean like, some kind of socialist?

Time is owned by the Meredith Corp, out in Iowa (publisher of Better Homes and Gardens) - who purchased Time with financial assistance from the Koch Brothers.

yep, they seem like radical lefties to me too. lol.

in terms of the reaction to the cover? Time seems to mirror the preponderance of the public's reaction to the recent detentions executed under the Trump administration.

- IGIT

 

[Darkballs]

You are scum.

Christ. Honest advice kid, go to fucking bed. You don't need to keep quoting me in multiple threads. I know you're butthurt about me mocking your source that you finally admitted to it being an intentional misrepresentation. And of course it has nothing to do with the underlying issue of whether or not 3,000 kids were being forcefully separated.

We get it dude. You don't want to talk about that, because you have no justification for it. So you want to distract over a magazine cover that might have used a girl whose detention was minimal or never occurred. This changes nothing. Your source still sucked, the father was still never present so his opinion should count for shit, and the policy affecting children is still shitty and unjustified by this administration.

Now that position isn't gonna change with any of the crap you threw out with your responses. So just go on your way and stop quoting me every other day on the same damn issue. Or feel free to continue your complete mental collapse and mention me in your sig.

I offered you $50 to find that interview or any other evidence and you couldn't do it.

And I offer $1,000,000 for you if you can offer proof that you don't suck dick for a living. Whats the matter? Why aren't you jumping to my tune?

 

[ElKarlo]

lol I think you're putting too much stock in the facebook version of spammy chain e-mails from the 2000's. The political left has never been as susceptible to that stuff as the right.

Save for Fox news, the right doesn't have all the media outlets pushing this nonsense. It's really sad that the left makes me defend Trump over stuff like this

 

[Gunny]

I would like to see those studies. Is this time magazine article not a photoshop? Was it not being spread around all over social media? You are basing your observations on a sherdog meme thread lol. Most of the posts are by one or two posters. The same thing happens in every single sub forum on sherdog. Even in the esteem gif thread, there are 2 posters posting almost all the content, there are several posters asking them to stop.

I don't think I have ever seen this place called a liberal think tank. Maybe a few posters called liberal bots, but they are really just trolls who got banned, or currently have yellow cards. Just as right wing trolls/potential bots get banned and yellow carded.

This site literally counts for a very small fraction of the internet. Males, mostly white, mostly young, mostly combat sport/sport enthusiasts..

My last sentence means that of course the studies you read on your preferred news outlets will of course confirm what you want. Just like an article from breitbart confirms what a lot of posters on here want. What happens when TIME and CNN and report something, that turns out to be a photoshop depicting something false, like in this case? It isn't a MEME at all, it just represents something it clearly is not.

Meanwhile, breitbart was first reporting the fathers take, which has now been confirmed by multiple sources? I mean, go on to facebook right meow. You will see exactly what I am talking about. Facebook is a much larger sample, from a much more diverse population. I 100% you will not find one person praising Trump, and will only find people shitting on him. If you look at 50-100 posts that are related to politics.

To address the point about Sherdog as a liberal think tank. I’ve never heard anyone call it that but I have, on occasion, told the story of one of this forum’s more notorious liberal posters who, in the early Obama years, used to copy and paste his posts (dozens upon dozens every day) from a section of a liberal think tank’s website called “how to argue with conservatives online”. Of course he was trying to pass those posts off as his own thoughts and when found out he was ridiculed mercilessly. It could be nac was seeing posts referencing that episode and not understanding the context.

 

[Striker Fox]

Can you link to the actual press story that ran this fake photo, or was this something you picked up in a meme factory?

It was all over Facebook, Twitter ect. Sadly a lot of people are influenced and get their news from this kind of media.

 

[Bargey]

hiya Bargey,

a leftist? you mean like, some kind of socialist?

Time is owned by the Meredith Corp, out in Iowa (publisher of Better Homes and Gardens) - who purchased Time with financial assistance from the Koch Brothers.

yep, they seem like radical lefties to me too. lol.

in terms of the reaction to the cover? Time seems to mirror the preponderance of the public's reaction to the recent detentions executed under the Trump administration.

- IGIT

What public IGIT? Done any polls on the opinions of Americans in regard to the ‘enforcing the law’ policy? No I think if you actually talked to real people in true terms you’d find that most like the idea of the rule of law.

And all that stuff about left and right....I would have thought that you would know that the defining of left and right is contextual; most global corporatists, the MSM in particular, generally hate Trump or at least don’t want to be seen publicly liking him, so in that sense have thrown their lot in with the left.

 

[nac386]

I would like to see those studies. Is this time magazine article not a photoshop? Was it not being spread around all over social media? You are basing your observations on a sherdog meme thread lol. Most of the posts are by one or two posters. The same thing happens in every single sub forum on sherdog. Even in the esteem gif thread, there are 2 posters posting almost all the content, there are several posters asking them to stop.

I'm not basing all my observations around the sherdog meme thread. I'm using it as one example, and it's an example that overwhelmingly supports the studies that I have read. Whether or not you are comfortable with it, the Meme thread here exists on a forum that is split pretty evenly left/right, and almost the entire thread is right wing. That does mean something.

Time Magazine's photo of the girl and Trump was a photoshop, but it was not hiding as something else. It was like a political cartoon, a satirical image depicting the treatment of child immigrants. It was not masquerading as a real picture of Trump staring down at a little girl, nobody was led to believe that, it was overlaid on a red background, lol. Surely you see the difference there.

My last sentence means that of course the studies you read on your preferred news outlets will of course confirm what you want. Just like an article from breitbart confirms what a lot of posters on here want. What happens when TIME and CNN and report something, that turns out to be a photoshop depicting something false, like in this case? It isn't a MEME at all, it just represents something it clearly is not.

See, this just isn't true. I don't have any skin in the game, I openly say that both political parties are crooked, I don't like any of them, I don't support any single politician right now, and I don't think any side is above doing shady stuff.

My point is just this: The right clearly has more of an obsession with memes and conspiracies across the internet, and they are more likely to spread that stuff. That is something that appears very obvious, and is also confirmed by multiple studies. If it was the opposite, then I'd say the opposite, I don't care.

Link to the Oxford study: http://comprop.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/polarization-partisanship-and-junk-news/

Meanwhile, breitbart was first reporting the fathers take, which has now been confirmed by multiple sources? I mean, go on to facebook right meow. You will see exactly what I am talking about. Facebook is a much larger sample, from a much more diverse population. I 100% you will not find one person praising Trump, and will only find people shitting on him. If you look at 50-100 posts that are related to politics.

Actually, studies show that right wing junk news is more common, and that Facebook is the preferred place to spread right wing propaganda.

You know what's funny? Probably 90% of my Facebook is liberal, but the only 3 truly 100% fake things I've ever seen posted on Facebook were far right wing lol. One attributed a fake Hitler quote to Obama, one claimed Obama was keeping everybody's tax return, and one was about Hilary murdering people. Lol.


The difference is this. The TIME cover is not fabricating an entire situation, it's just attributed one bad picture, when there are 1,000 they could actually use. They just picked a bad picture. Worthy of criticism? Of course. But that's not the same thing as completely fabricating insane conspiracy theories where you call people murderers and rapists and pedophiles, or completely fabricate quotes to attribute to people, or intentionally edit a tape to re-arrange somebody's words to circulate, or making up statistics to mislead everybody, etc.

There are differences here, and it's ridiculous to pretend like TIME magazine accidentally using an inaccurate picture to depict an actual problem is the same thing as fabricating entire theories about how pizza shop owners are running huge pedophilia rings where Hilary Clinton rapes kids. Give me a break.

 

[nac386]

Findings of the Oxford study:

(1) on Twitter, a network of Trump supporters shares the widest range of known junk news sources and circulates more junk news than all the other groups put together;
(2) on Facebook, extreme hard right pages—distinct from Republican pages—share the widest range of known junk news sources and circulate more junk news than all the other audiences put together;
(3) on average, the audiences for junk news on Twitter share a wider range of known junk news sources than audiences on Facebook’s public pages.

Now seriously, does that actually surprise anybody? Did anybody think the meme thread here was an aberration? Of course not. It's a microcosm of our society. The left wing posters rarely post or fall for completely fabricated information, and a certain group of right wing posters seem to relish in it.

 

[PHATV]

For its cover this week, titled "Welcome to America," Time magazine cropped the picture to show just the girl, juxtaposing it with a picture of Trump, as though he were looking down at her.

On Friday, Time published a correction saying: "The original version of this story misstated what happened to the girl in the photo after she (was) taken from the scene. The girl was not carried away screaming by U.S. Border Patrol agents; her mother picked her up and the two were taken away together."

In Honduras, Denis Valera said on Thursday that his daughter and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, were detained together in McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated. Nevertheless, "My daughter has become a symbol of the ... separation of children at the U.S. border," Valera told Reuters in a phone interview.

Honduras' deputy foreign minister, Nelly Jerez, confirmed Valera's version of events.

Varela said Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling him or the couple's three other children.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/white-hou...media-exploiting-toddler-photo-175002249.html