Till is a more dangerous opponent for Woodley than Wonderboy is

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  1. Gambit MMA

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    He seems to improve every fight. Going from Cerrone who is a small 170er (and washed up at this point), to beating #1 Stephen Thompson who just had 2 VERY close fights with Woodley is impressive. The weight cut issue that happened was definitely his screw up, but I honestly expected him to gas sooner or later since he had to do that second weigh in this morning and make under 188 pounds. His cardio actually looked pretty solid for a big guy that had a god awful cut.

    Granted, he wasn't really pushed to expend a lot of energy since it was essentially just him and Wonderboy trading on the feet, but let's remember Woodley doesn't have a high output/volume of strikes himself. Woodley defeated Wonderboy by just waiting for openings to counter and took advantage of Wonderboy thinking about the takedown.

    If you look at Woodleys takedown numbers unless I'm mistaken he's only landed like 5 or 6 takedowns in all of his UFC fights combined. He's not a guy thats going to shoot for 15-20 takedowns in a single fight, his cardio isn't good enough for him to do that. Thats why he's elected to be a counter puncher with the threat of maybe going for 1 or 2 here and there to either land some GNP or to win a round on points.

    Till is bigger, stronger, and packs a bigger punch on the feet and is a more aggressive striker. Where Wonderboy fails to pull the trigger (and it has costed him in fights), Till wouldn't play the waiting game like Wonderboy did with Woodley. I think Wonderboy would have been champ if he had a higher output in those 2 fights with Woodley.

    Till would essentially have 20 or so minutes to make something happen on the feet, and with him having more power, being stronger, and being more aggressive than Wonderboy that's why I think he's a more dangerous challenger. The Woodley takedown threat is overstated, he's only going to shoot for one strategically throughout the fight. He's not going to employ a wrestling based gameplan. Till has a chance at being taken down but he would have plenty of time on the feet to score a stoppage. I think he's the guy that won't be gun shy with Tyron and will make him increase his output and actually fight on the feet.

    Just my opinion from what I've seen of Till and Woodley as of late. Whoever will make Tyron expend more energy and defend himself more has the best chance at beating him. He'll beat everybody if you let him get away with throwing 50-60 strikes a fight and counter punch for 25 minutes. Till is the next guy thats big enough, strong enough, and has a big enough punch that'll actually threaten him on the feet.
     
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    If Wonderboy was more active against Woodley, he would have left more openings.

    The difference is when Woodley decides to go, its devastating. He nearly murdered Wonderboy in both of those fights. Wonderboy was landing and scoring some points, but he didn't have the tactical advantage to actually hurt Tyron.

    The threat of the take down is a game changer. Recall in the very first round of their first fight, Woodley took down Thompson and put a ferocious beating on him. That is going to change how you attack.

    It will be no different with Till. If its established early on that Woodley can take him down and hurt him, he'll fight with that in mind, as he should.
     
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    I somewhat agree, but he has to get past Usman or Covington first (most likely Usman) because Covington will fight Woodley soon.
     
  4. Ruthless_swag

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    agree with this but I find it hard to see till beating a guy like tyron. tyron simply has too much power, speed and strength advantage over most of his opponents. nate had to be juiced to the gills to beat a green Tyron. till isnt exactly muscular either. I see usman beating him honestly.
     
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    We would see Woodley go back to grappling... might not be exciting... but would watch just in case.
     
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    Woolley would wrestlefuck him to Bolivian and wouldn’t even break a sweat
     
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    It's the exact same fight other than Till being less skilled n less chance to win. Another boring fight
     
  8. bluecocky00

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    I think Woodley relies too much on leg kicks to be completive on he feet
     
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    especially when he doesn't plan to make weight.
     
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    I honestly don't see Woodley beating Till as far as striking standing up; Woodley will definitely have to ground and pound Till.
     
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    Till is more dangerous overall because of a his clinch game
    didn't see it today because WB is a master at avoidance but I see
    Till backing up Tyron against the fence and rocking him with some nasty elbows
    I like Woodley and wouldn't count him out but Till has a stylistic advantage imo

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    Usman beating Till? I don't see it.:confused:o_O{<hhh]<YeahOKJen><DontBelieve1><{CMPALM}>
     
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    Doesn't matter. Tyron is going to lose to RDA anyways.
     
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    if rda had more size and strength, he would 100% beat tyron. worst possible matchup. but tyron is just too big now.
     
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    Less skilled than Wonderboy? Even though he just beat Wonderboy?
    Da fuq?
     
  16. dominion

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    Till with better TDD would own that division no doubt. However, he was taken down by the likes of runderboy , so Woodley could theoretically wrestle fuck him, same with usman and cov.
     
  17. Bend NvR Break

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    @rjmbrd nailed it. When Woodley decides it's go time it's devastating. People taste what Woodley brings to the table and their entire game plan goes out the window.
     
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    That's funny considering Colby is going to NCAA his way to a 50-45 decision over RDA.

    It won't be pretty. It won't be exciting. But it's going to happen.
     

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