Media The Day Pelé Settled The Score in The Ring... #1

[Idonotbelieveit]

I remember Pele as being the original scary guy in MMA, he was almost mythical back when I started watching in 95, it was years before I actually got to see him fight. He was like the boogeyman, heard about him but never seen him.
IVC was the only stuff I could get with him on back then
He was Wanderlei and Anderson Silva before they were if you know what I mean

Years Later I got to see him main event vs Lee Murray in Laaaaaandan

Laaaandon
I'm from east London

 

[gono btw]

A lot of jealousy
Pele said he'd whoop andy
But any Anderson beats him imo

Maybe not any... MW Spider, for sure... but @ WW, depends...

Pelé had a low fight IQ, but had more powerful leg kicks (but without setups...), knees in the MT clinch...

Spider´s boxing was better, more technical, especially defensively.

Pelé was doing front kicks much b4 Spider in fights, too...

Groundgame:

Pelé´s scrambles were horrible, like wtf... His TDD was worse than Spider, but he had a better greco clinch, and much better throws, but again, weird transitions as he would more often than not end up on the bottom...

Pelé´s submission arsenal was underrated imo, as he showcased some really slick transitions for a striker in some of his fights, while Spider´s submission arsenal was more opportunistic:

@ 6mn20



@ 9mn

 

[andyjeezy]

A lot of jealousy
Pele said he'd whoop andy
But any Anderson beats him imo

I disagree I say Pele from 93- 2000 beats Anderson Silva.

 

[HUGHPHUG]

Laaaandon
I'm from east London

Ha! I'm from Essex and we were spoiled for MMA back in the 2000 - 2007 sort of era in London/South East

Circus Tavern and Wembley Conference Centre man!!

 

[Buffmeister]

This series 'The Day...' is about 'extraordinary' moments in NHB/Vale Tudo history.

Today: [Brazilian Vale Tudo Scene]

Jose "Pelé" Landi-Jons vs Moura

Desafio Chute Boxe Capoeira
[08/29/1993].

Note: this thread can be seen as an extension of these ones:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...save-his-nation-against-chuteboxe-37.3949335/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-nilson-de-castro-chuteboxe-kept-flyin´outside-the-ring-32.3913987/


Holy shit...This fight was all over the place... Crazy crowd... Weird ending...

The 2 fighters decided to resolve in the ring a lil misunderstanding they had in the streets...

Spoiler: 'The Day...' Threads

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-death-master-stormed-into-the-vale-tudo-scene-24.3882431/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...enio-tadeu-climb-back-in-the-ring-34.3933271/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ly-really-intimate-with-the-pedro-30.3905323/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...d-to-face-2-opponents-in-the-ring-33.3924541/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-nilson-de-castro-chuteboxe-kept-flyin´outside-the-ring-32.3913987/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-teeth-kept-flyin´-ivc-31.3907739/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-machida-got-inspired-by-marcelo-tigre´s-drink-29.3901939/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-bjj-jorge-pereira-fearing-a-riot-27.3894033/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-the-hold-at-the-end-of-the-round-28.3896733/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ary-side-of-the-russian-nhb-scene-35.3853211/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-yamasaki-got-inspired-to-become-a-ref-26.3885363/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ck-b4-coning-mayweather-this-week-25.3863593/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-nobody-knew-if-sauer-had-tapped-or-not-23.3886109/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-takeo-yano-george-gracie-both-went-lights-out-22.3881991/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-drago-felt-happy-wand-wasnt-cornerin´-the-other-side-21.3873849/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-tank-inspired-coleman-20.3879835/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-little-volk-forgot-to-grapple-in-rings-19.3878575/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-want-usuta-to-tap-against-wallid-18.3877671/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-leg-lock-master-met-manos-de-piedra-36.3876141/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-coleman-went-full-roid-rage-in-brazil-17.3874387/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-saad-muhammad-promised-a-ko-against-tamura-16.3875713/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...k-hands-then-gave-ilyukhin-a-hand-15.3864713/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-kurmanov-the-boxer-submitted-ahmedov-the-jj-14.3874565/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-oleg-forgot-about-the-special-rule-13.3853539/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-sergei-akinin-launched-a-new-mma-gear-12.3872407/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-henzo-had-to-make-alvarenga-tap-several-times-11.3871109/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-amar-suloev-mightymoused-oganov-10.3871769/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-couture-got-played-by-ilyukhin-9.3866571/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-yvel-bit-barkalaev-volk-han-slapped-the-ref-8.3863115/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-tamura-forgot-to-shake-hands-with-yamamoto-7.3863509/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-marco-huas-went-full-babalu-toquinho-6.3852863/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-paulson-got-kimo-ed-badly-5.3831975/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-paulson-had-to-tap-with-his-foot-on-ronin´s-head-4.3830825/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-rei-zulu-machida-ed-sergio-batarelli-3.3828423/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-igor-showed-his-genuine-side-2.3821765/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-pelé-settled-the-score-in-the-ring-1.3812249/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-the-doc-had-to-check-the-cut-during-the-gnp-36.3941549/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...save-his-nation-against-chuteboxe-37.3949335/

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-enson-inoue-desgraced-himself-against-rei-zulu.3878069/

Dude...never saw this fight...

Pele wasnt fucking around with this right hands...he loaded the first one all the way back from his corner...lol

 

[gono btw]

Dude...never saw this fight...

Pele wasnt fucking around with this right hands...he loaded the first one all the way back from his corner...lol

No next round, no judges, no tomorrow...

 

[Buffmeister]

No next round, no judges, no tomorrow...

Is it just me?... Pele looks way bigger in this fight early into his career...than later in his career...


Might be the pixels...i dont know lol

 

[eternaldarkness]

Puzzling, indeed..

Pelé was really an unlucky bashtard... Came to the spotlights a lil bit 2 soon, when the market wasnt ripe yet...

Then, in Pride, he had his chance... Against Ronin, Spider threw the very same knee and connected, while Pelé´s knee missed a lil bit the target...And Pelé ended up losing...

On a sidenote, probably due to the influence of his Vale Tudo days, Pelé could have sometimes a weird fight IQ...
Like, suddenly looking for the clinch, being the stronger man, throwing the other dude awkwardly, and ending on the bottom...

Pele was never signed by UFC because I'm pretty sure he was the first man to beat Hughes.

 

[gono btw]

Pele was never signed by UFC because I'm pretty sure he was the first man to beat Hughes.

Hallman was the 1st, but Pelé was so unlucky indeed that he beat Hughes in Kuwait a few months b4 he became UFC WW champ...

 

[DarkneT]

I remember Pele as being the original scary guy in MMA, he was almost mythical back when I started watching in 95, it was years before I actually got to see him fight. He was like the boogeyman, heard about him but never seen him.
IVC was the only stuff I could get with him on back then
He was Wanderlei and Anderson Silva before they were if you know what I mean

Years Later I got to see him main event vs Lee Murray in Laaaaaandan

You went to the pele and murray fight live?
I bet that was fucking wild, any stories?

 

[HUGHPHUG]

You went to the pele and murray fight live?
I bet that was fucking wild, any stories?

I'm trying to remember the venue, I remember the weigh ins being held at a restaurant or night club but I can't remember where the fight was.
I get a feeling it was in a tiny venue where they often hold snooker events.
Little point of interest I found out about years later, Spencer Fisher missed weight that night and was unable to fight Jean Silva on the card.

I was a rare thing for this event, an MMA fan. I swear the place was filled with gangsters, thugs and wide boys, all white, mostly shaved heads and jewelry!
It was all ground level seating, nothing tiered, and my memory tells me we were al sitting real close to the cage.

I don't remember much, I do remember there were a number of fights through out the night outside of the cage, and that when Lee put Pele down the place went mental, really fucking rowdy and a few more fights broke out. Sounds cool but it was pretty intimidating! We left quite quickly after that even though the guys I was with were borderline thugs anyway. Have a feeling it was East London somewhere.

Jason Black was a stud by the way, really expected him to make waves in Pride and UFC when he got in but it wasn't to be

Ian Freeman was supposed to fight that night but I can't remember why it didn't happen

We went to a flithy strip club in Kingston afterwards and took a bunch of pills!

 

[DarkneT]

I'm trying to remember the venue, I remember the weigh ins being held at a restaurant or night club but I can't remember where the fight was.
I get a feeling it was in a tiny venue where they often hold snooker events.
Little point of interest I found out about years later, Spencer Fisher missed weight that night and was unable to fight Jean Silva on the card.

I was a rare thing for this event, an MMA fan. I swear the place was filled with gangsters, thugs and wide boys, all white, mostly shaved heads and jewelry!
It was all ground level seating, nothing tiered, and my memory tells me we were al sitting real close to the cage.

I don't remember much, I do remember there were a number of fights through out the night outside of the cage, and that when Lee put Pele down the place went mental, really fucking rowdy and a few more fights broke out. Sounds cool but it was pretty intimidating! We left quite quickly after that even though the guys I was with were borderline thugs anyway. Have a feeling it was East London somewhere.

Jason Black was a stud by the way, really expected him to make waves in Pride and UFC when he got in but it wasn't to be

Ian Freeman was supposed to fight that night but I can't remember why it didn't happen

We went to a flithy strip club in Kingston afterwards and took a bunch of pills!

Yeah mate I fully get that, and that was a great post
I can imagine how rough that place must have been, I follow Epstein on socials and he looks a rum fucker, always posting pics from ‘back in the day’ aka what you just mentioned, I’m surprised you survived to tel the tale, I bet a lot of money exchanged hands when Lee knocked him out

 

[HUGHPHUG]

Yeah mate I fully get that, and that was a great post
I can imagine how rough that place must have been, I follow Epstein on socials and he looks a rum fucker, always posting pics from ‘back in the day’ aka what you just mentioned, I’m surprised you survived to tel the tale, I bet a lot of money exchanged hands when Lee knocked him out

We went to a lot of events like that through Essex and London, some places we really were lucky to get out.

I dug out the video, if you skip to around 1.20 you can see how close they are to the cage, we were among that lot somewhere

 

[KilledByDeath]

Pele, really takes me back.
What a great fighter he was.
But man his loss to Matsui was all mind melting at the time.

 

[eternaldarkness]

Hallman was the 1st, but Pelé was so unlucky indeed that he beat Hughes in Kuwait a few months b4 he became UFC WW champ...

forgot about hallman. Remember when hallman used to seem like a legit fighter and not some underpant wearing weirdo.

 

[gono btw]

forgot about hallman. Remember when hallman used to seem like a legit fighter and not some underpant wearing weirdo.

Spoiler

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-sergei-akinin-launched-a-new-mma-gear-12.3872407/

 

[Coconutwater]

His leg broke viciously on a checked kick against Gassaway he definitely was not koed. If his luck was a little different in some of his bouts he would had wins over 3 other UFC champs including Chuck Liddell(knocked down Chuck with a big shot) Carlos Newton(nearly finished him) and Dave Menne(desputed decision could've gone either way). Respect to Pele he was Anderson Silva before Anderson Silva.

Dave Menne.

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time, a long time. LOL.

 

[gono btw]

Is it just me?... Pele looks way bigger in this fight early into his career...than later in his career...


Might be the pixels...i dont know lol

Kindah hard to assess whether he was a natural WW or MW...

 

[Buffmeister]

Kindah hard to assess whether he was a natural WW or MW...

...i think he fitted in pretty good at WW.
...when i'm watching the Hughes fight as example










...damn...just found a great Pele Newton pic:

 

[Aerosol]

Amazing thanks TS
Peles HL was one of the first ones I could find back in the day, remembre he 12to6 elbowed some poor guys ear off it hurts just remembering still to this day
WAR OLDSCHOOL!!!
Just saw the pic and remembered the Newton knee. He foking asked Newton if he was ok before continuing to fight iirc. Amazing haha