Thoughts on this pyramid? Agree? Disagree?

That pyramid shows an utter lack of understanding of rape and it's causes. The muslim world has a rape culture, the western world does not. Their rape culture is built on the foundation that women are second class citizens who don't deserve human rights or human decency. And that the victim of rape is punished by torture, death and ostracism.

Anyone who thinks the west has a rape problem probably hasn't travelled that much. Getting your feelings hurt isn't rape. Getting raped is.

Wrong, Muslims are more respectful of women than are western men.

Stop mansplaining your racism and let this woman educate you: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

Or this one:
 
actually yeah. but gang rape more a thing done in war or by 1 tribe men against another tribe of foreign women.

rare cases like india sexually frustated men will gang rape their own women
 
Wrong, Muslims are more respectful of women than are western men.

Stop mansplaining your racism and let this woman educate you: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html

Or this one:


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@LogicalInsanity the pyramid has the basic idea right, but with some things that seem odd. For example, the pay-gap thing is probably supposed to represent devaluation of females, but a lot of people will have a hard time understanding how that is connected to the rest of the pyramid.

A lot of people just misinterpret what the pyramid means. It seems like a handful of people think it's supposed to represent a sequence of events, which is not the case. It's supposed to be a collection of attitudes and actions that create a culture in which women are not valued, thus increasing the likelihood that they are taken advantage of or raped. That can be debated, but I wish people understood the pyramid so that they could comment on what it actually means.



This is a fantasy land statement. What you just described is mob justice. Mob justice is illegal, that is why you don't see men running out with torches and lynching people they believe may have committed a crime. It has nothing to do with feminism.

You think mobs stopped taking to the streets to kill alleged rapists because feminists coined the term "toxic masculinity"? That is what it seems like you've implied here.

Also, there have been multiple cases of fathers or husbands beating rapists to death or close to it. I never once, ever, heard anybody make a claim that the father or husband was displaying toxic masculinity by doing so.

Can you tell us where you got any of these ideas?




That is not what the pyramid is supposed to mean at all. It should have an explanation posted along with it, because a lot of people seem to think it's a sequence of actions or something.

Thanks for all the replies guys...

And @nac386 I pretty much agree with you on this while disagreeing (respectfully) with several of my conservative brethren here...

This pyramid is not saying cat calling will eventually lead to gang rape...

I believe it's stating that it shares some of the same elements of devaluing women...

Im also inclined to agree with @RhinoRush as well...many Islamic nations truly represent what complete "rape culture" looks like, from the treatment of women as second class citizens and the legitimizing of rape in certain circumstances...
 
Americans don't seem to mind gang-rape if it happens on men in prison.

Because men and women are not equal.

If a man cannot defend himself then what good is he?

Couple that with the fact that people in prison are generally scummy it's no surprise we don't really care.
 
Feminists demonizing and emasculating males has been to women's detriment. There was a time when men would beat the shit out of disgusting perverts and rapists who preyed on women. That kind of useful violence is now considered toxic masculinity. What is happening in Europe is a strong example of just how much feminism has destroyed males. Instead of physically destroying the Muslims and North Africans who are aggressively sexually assaulting Europe's women the men are wearing skirts, putting on lipstick, creating hashtags and talking about feelings. Where are the men who are willing to fight? Castrated by a twisted ideology.

Feminism is Cancer.

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Amen brother, so fuckint spot on.
 
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Do you find this to be accurate in your experience?

I know most of us are men here...i just want to gather your thoughts on this...

All opinions welcome.

I suppose it's close in a violence/degradation order, but I wouldn't say the bottom reinforces and excuses the top.

Not sure why unequal pay is on there and I would have murder at the top. Also, shouldn't online rape and death threats be higher than revenge porn and flashing?
 
That pyramid shows an utter lack of understanding of rape and it's causes. The muslim world has a rape culture, the western world does not. Their rape culture is built on the foundation that women are second class citizens who don't deserve human rights or human decency. And that the victim of rape is punished by torture, death and ostracism.

This is a key point in any discussion of rape culture. America doesn't have a rape culture, but plenty of other places do.
 
Thanks for all the replies guys...

And @nac386 I pretty much agree with you on this while disagreeing (respectfully) with several of my conservative brethren here...

This pyramid is not saying cat calling will eventually lead to gang rape...

I believe it's stating that it shares some of the same elements of devaluing women...

Im also inclined to agree with @RhinoRush as well...many Islamic nations truly represent what complete "rape culture" looks like, from the treatment of women as second class citizens and the legitimizing of rape in certain circumstances...

I think we get into a habit of using intense language to describe things, and the intense language makes it a bit divisive.

For example, the term "rape culture" fits that description. I understand what people mean when they use it, and I think they have a lot of good points. I've also seen people exaggerate it, which turns rational people off to the idea.

I think "white privilege" is another one. I understand aspects of it, but the overuse makes people denounce it entirely.

We could make a list of like 20 such terms pretty easily I think. Terms that have some truth to them, and can be supported with logically and intellectually honest evidence. But when things are overused or exaggerated, it creates a group that opposes the very idea of it, which I think is also a bad thing.

I'm rambling, but do you know what I mean? Lately I've been saying that conversations need to be honest from the start in order to go anywhere, because I think that's one of the main things causing divisiveness. If something starts with an exaggeration or complete dismissal (of something that is somewhere in between), it quickly goes off the rails.
 
This is a key point in any discussion of rape culture. America doesn't have a rape culture, but plenty of other places do.

Certain parts of America do. Hollywood has a rape culture obviously as does the American contingent of the catholic church (and the catholic church at large).

Hollywood as a whole colludes to cover up rapes and sexual assaults and even laughs about it. The church has an actual system to protect rapists and ensure they always have new victims to prey upon.
 
Certain parts of America do. Hollywood has a rape culture obviously as does the American contingent of the catholic church (and the catholic church at large).

Hollywood as a whole colludes to cover up rapes and sexual assaults and even laughs about it. The church has an actual system to protect rapists and ensure they always have new victims to prey upon.

True, there are rape sub-cultures both among the elites and among the low class. But characterizing American culture as a whole as a rape culture misses the mark.
 
Not really sure what I'm looking at does it mean locker room banter leads to gang rape like the old so called gateway drugs?

Marijuana? It is a gateway drug. Show me a real pot head outside recreational states that doesn't fuck with other shit their dealer has. It always leads to more.
 
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Because men and women are not equal.

If a man cannot defend himself then what good is he?

Couple that with the fact that people in prison are generally scummy it's no surprise we don't really care.

Basically context does matter, even when it comes to gang rape.
 
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