THIRD Mass Shooting In 24 Hours (Maryland Rite Aid)

RerouteToRemain said:
I would respond to this but you haven't ever responded to my or other people's rebuttals to that nonsense.

You have no responses to anything, just pathetic memes.
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because he's a "ghost in the dark" <Lmaoo>
 
kpt018 said:
That's fair man, but both sides do it. For example, you're called a snowflake if you think it's important to strive towards ending racism or you're a communist if you want a system in which people have access to affordable healthcare. The dialogue is bad all around. But from my perspective folks on the left are putting forward arguments that would help solve problems and the right is not and that's a gigantic difference.

I don't see it that way at all. One side is a fringe group and one is the most powerful man in the world. And the goals are very different. I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.

Personally I am skeptical of far left policy, don't want really high taxes and I like markets. I do share policy goals with the left though. If we are talking about truly radical policy, count me among those that disagree with them, depending on what you mean by "radical". I also think AOC is an idiot and didn't like that she beat Crowley, for the record. Hopefully she is a quick study and learns on the job.
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Yeah, the snowflake, hyperbole ("If you like Policy A, you're no better than a Soviet!"), and stuff has got to go. This has been a major failure on behalf of conservatives, particularly this trend that is the alt-right. This dialogue is unproductive. There are people on the right that are putting forward cogent arguments about how to actually end racial inequalities, but they aren't as sexy, and they often get dismissed. For those of us who make said arguments, it's about targeting individuals instead of groups, and that's harder for people to understand than the sound bytes of identity. But for good dialogue, isn't that what we are doing right now?

I guess my logic is this: President Trump will out of office in 2-6 years. Who are the alt-right without him? I honestly see this group as a flash in the pan in the long term, and let's face it: His detractors REALLY fucking hate him. This guy can't fart in the car without people noticing, making it into a headline, and into a thread here. The checks and balances against him are working extremely well. If you believe the op-ed, even his own staff work around him when they're afraid that their boss is going to screw something up. If he has a hare-brained scheme, someone in the room is going to put an end to it. That doesn't speak well of the administration, but it also should ease your mind that he might run the train off the tracks. On the other hand, a growing faction on the far left, perhaps a counterpoint to this, could be something that exists as a political faction for years. I don't know when they will stop growing or where they will end up, whereas the alt-right has gotten about as big as it will ever be.

Hopefully, Crowley can still retain his seat. I can't imagine that district going to a R under any circumstances, but I'd prefer to see him win than AOC. She's the kind of radical that I'd like to see not get her hands on power.
 
sub_thug said:
Yeah, the snowflake, hyperbole ("If you like Policy A, you're no better than a Soviet!"), and stuff has got to go. This has been a major failure on behalf of conservatives, particularly this trend that is the alt-right. This dialogue is unproductive. There are people on the right that are putting forward cogent arguments about how to actually end racial inequalities, but they aren't as sexy, and they often get dismissed. For those of us who make said arguments, it's about targeting individuals instead of groups, and that's harder for people to understand than the sound bytes of identity. But for good dialogue, isn't that what we are doing right now?

I guess my logic is this: President Trump will out of office in 2-6 years. Who are the alt-right without him? I honestly see this group as a flash in the pan in the long term, and let's face it: His detractors REALLY fucking hate him. This guy can't fart in the car without people noticing, making it into a headline, and into a thread here. The checks and balances against him are working extremely well. If you believe the op-ed, even his own staff work around him when they're afraid that their boss is going to screw something up. If he has a hare-brained scheme, someone in the room is going to put an end to it. That doesn't speak well of the administration, but it also should ease your mind that he might run the train off the tracks. On the other hand, a growing faction on the far left, perhaps a counterpoint to this, could be something that exists as a political faction for years. I don't know when they will stop growing or where they will end up, whereas the alt-right has gotten about as big as it will ever be.

Hopefully, Crowley can still retain his seat. I can't imagine that district going to a R under any circumstances, but I'd prefer to see him win than AOC. She's the kind of radical that I'd like to see not get her hands on power.
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I think Trump has far more influence on Republicans and America than the Democratic Socialists group. Trump has opened the door to an ugly version of politics and the Republican party has basically deferred to him despite controlling co-equal branches of government.

I don't think the checks and balances are working in the way you're describing. If the op-ed is to be believed that is evidence that checks and balances are not working! That means we are relying upon folks that were appointed by Trump who lack the authority to stop him to actively undermine him to prevent bad policy. That's a bug, not a feature.

Yes, the power of the president is limited. But instead of acting like a co-equal branch of government they've lacked the spine to stop policy they strongly oppose (like Tariffs). From that standpoint they're failing. And they can do nothing on a foreign policy front.
 
kpt018 said:
I think Trump has far more influence on Republicans and America than the Democratic Socialists group. Trump has opened the door to an ugly version of politics and the Republican party has basically deferred to him despite controlling co-equal branches of government.

I don't think the checks and balances are working in the way you're describing. If the op-ed is to be believed that is evidence that checks and balances are not working! That means we are relying upon folks that were appointed by Trump who lack the authority to stop him to actively undermine him to prevent bad policy. That's a bug, not a feature.

Yes, the power of the president is limited. But instead of acting like a co-equal branch of government they've lacked the spine to stop policy they strongly oppose (like Tariffs). From that standpoint they're failing. And they can do nothing on a foreign policy front.
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I'd be interested in seeing how many Americans have a favorable view of socialism versus a favorable view of Trump. If I could get numbers for 2016, 2018, 2020, and if he wins a second term, 2024, that would be extremely fascinating. I'm better than you would see the Trump numbers fall while the socialism numbers go up. That's the part I find scary. As for politics being ugly, politics didn't start in 2016. This has been a long and slippery slope downward, but I'm hoping that we can turn it around. That's what I am trying to do right now by talking to you, man to man, in a respectable and honest fashion. If we are going to change this shit, it's going to have to happen one person at a time.

I agree it's not a good thing, but it also means that he's not a megalomaniac that can hatch his plans like a Bond villain. There's some good in that.

Sorry, but who is the "they" in this statement? I assume you mean Congress, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
 
sub_thug said:
I'd be interested in seeing how many Americans have a favorable view of socialism versus a favorable view of Trump. If I could get numbers for 2016, 2018, 2020, and if he wins a second term, 2024, that would be extremely fascinating. I'm better than you would see the Trump numbers fall while the socialism numbers go up. That's the part I find scary. As for politics being ugly, politics didn't start in 2016. This has been a long and slippery slope downward, but I'm hoping that we can turn it around. That's what I am trying to do right now by talking to you, man to man, in a respectable and honest fashion. If we are going to change this shit, it's going to have to happen one person at a time.

I agree it's not a good thing, but it also means that he's not a megalomaniac that can hatch his plans like a Bond villain. There's some good in that.

Sorry, but who is the "they" in this statement? I assume you mean Congress, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
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Yes, I mean Congress.

Socialism is too vague and would need to be defined. But yeah, Trump is historically unpopular overall but he's extremely popular with Republicans and he's without question transforming the party.
 
kpt018 said:
Yes, I mean Congress.

Socialism is too vague and would need to be defined. But yeah, Trump is historically unpopular overall but he's extremely popular with Republicans and he's without question transforming the party.
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Congressional power has been decreasing over time for many years, and it's a bad idea. This is a trend that needs to change in a bad, bad way. The nice thing is that this isn't a red/blue thing, a refreshing change of conversation, haha.

He is transforming things, but I don't know how long he will have a transformational effect. The Tea Party was a big movement for a few years too, and while they never had their huge moment in the sun with a POTUS, they were very temporary. I wonder if President Trump will be temporary or not? My gut says yes, but who knows?
 
spamking said:
How is this loser still around?
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Would you say that you are 'triggered' by my comments?

Edit: due to mass complaints by members of the gun cult I am unable to reply to this thread.

You seem happy for people to get ripped up by bullets but a few words sting too much for you boys eh.

#gunnutsegosofragile

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Carolina Skiff said:
It’s multi shootings per day up the road in Durham and not a damn one is bc of some oppression and injustice.

Drugs, money, robberies, upbringing, gangs and lack of respect for others are the main reasons for inner city shootings.

This oppression and injustice crap is just easier to place blame elsewhere and to use as an excuse
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It's amazing some one would even have to point that out.
 
Trotsky said:
As a voting block, he's on-point. The American right is currently indefensible. That some of them aren't complete morons or have genuine feelings does not excuse their voting behavior (not necessarily on the issue of gun control, where I do believe reasonable minds can differ, but on supporting openly corrupt and unqualified candidates and other deeply regressive policies by a transparently dishonest GOP).
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Your entire post has nothing to do with what he just said, and completely validated his opinion. I’d say much more people voted for Trump based on illegal immigration than gun rights, would you agree? How is the 2nd Amendment a regressive policy? I ask this in most of my posts on here and it goes ignored, (I wonder why) why does it have to be one extreme for the other? Where the hell are all the moderates on both sides? I live in IL and more specifically Chicago which has insanely strict control and we have the same issues. I fail to see how any additional legislation including completely banning all weapons can prevent this. What is your solution? It gets annoying as hell whenever something like this happens and one side screams shall not be infringed and the other has no fucking clue about firearms and asks for a ban. Nothing will ever change cause both sides are ignorant as fuck.
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Blah blah everyone else is wrong but me blah blah blah
 
PureDominance said:
No thanks. 2020 the Blue Wave crashes down and there are some serious changes coming. You, on the other hand, will have nowhere to go. How does it feel?
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What changes are coming? Be specific...
 
Blaming guns is nothing but an excuse to avoid a good long hard look in the mirror as a society.
This country was fucking made on guns. Only until relatively recent times has this phenomena of random mass shootings been a thing.
What needs to be looked at is: what has changed in the past couple of decades?
 
PureDominance said:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ba3ab09e4b0181540dacb62

Three killed by a single gunman. Two other mass shootings less than 24-hours ago. It's disgusting that the regressive right has allowed this to become the new normal. The majority of Americans are fed up and know what needs to be done. Shit like this will get us back in power.
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It's disgusting that people have turned into reactionary monsters, unable to think. It's instant finger pointing and blame. So easy to manipulate people like you because you truly think you have all the answers, but in truth you can't see past your own selfish desires on the world.
 
I wonder how many of these shooters come from single-parent homes.
 
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