Things to take away from tonight.

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  1. thebizkit

    thebizkit Blue Belt

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    One, DC is absolutely on the money when he said that there are levels to this. Volkan and Francis are devastating punchers, who are very young in their mma careers, we can't expect them to be finished products at this point.

    Everyone loves to make fun of Ngannou's performance, but the guy just went 5 rounds with one of the greatest HWs of all time in his prime. He did so with only 5 total years of training, 0 wrestling training and with a coaching staff full of guys who don't know what they are doing. Francis' corner literally had no idea how to use ice, Vaseline or cold compound.

    Imagine what training 1 year in an actual MMA gym full of professionals will do for Francis. Greg Jackson can turn the guy into a champ for sure.
     
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    Jackson would turn him into a felon.
     
  4. Arm Barbarian

    Arm Barbarian Steel Belt Platinum Member

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    Insta-PED fail

    Other than the Jax-Winkleroid stuff, I liked your thread here TS.
     
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    PEDS Help me Post Black Belt

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    What's Greg Jackson's record lately?

    Isn't it like 0-25?


    Maybe he should try Edmund instead....
     
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    Lessons from tonight co and main , dont go full retard mode on the first round vs experienced champions.
     
  7. thebizkit

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    Missing the point when I brought up Gregg Jackson. My point is put Ngannou with legit coaching and in a legit camp full of actual mma fighters and I think Francis gets WAY BETTER.
     
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    I think you mean Greg Jackson can turn him into a boring point fighter who spams oblique kicks to the knee.
     
  9. Pitier of Fools

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    But that was really his only chance to win.
     
  10. tasticles

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    What I took from tonight is don't believe the hype, believe what you see.
     
  11. RiotWyatt

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    Ngannou is 31 and just fought for the most prestigious title in MMA. He should held to a higher standard.

    By that age, Fedor had already defended submissions from a BJJ master, submitted wrestling Olympians from the bottom and stood toe to toe with a K-1 champion.

    All Ngannou has done is knockout old fighters with career long suspect chins.
     
  12. thebizkit

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    Are you really comparing prime Fedor to a very green Ngannou?
     
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    Pretty much this. Even all the Ngannou nut huggers would've admitted pre-fight that with every minute the fight went Ngannou's chances of victory would fade. I don't think anyone would've given Ngannou much of a chance of winning past the 2nd round.
     
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    Askren would ragdoll Rory easily.
     
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    Stipe cannot be killed even if a Ford Escort crashes directly into his face.
     
  16. RiotWyatt

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    I am because Ngannou is fighting at the “highest” level in the sport and looked like an amateur. It’s a shame that all it takes to become a top HW these days is to be able to punch hard.
     
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    Mmmmmmma1234 Purple Belt

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    Alot of ifs there Francis might be so broken he retires for boxing. He might not change just headline just bleed fight vs lower comp and be rekt vs the best. We'll need to see.
     
  18. thebizkit

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    So are we supposed to discredit Francis' wins because he knocked them out instead of winning in other ways?

    Mike Tyson wasnt the most technically gifted boxer, and Yeah, he was a top guy because he punched hard.

    Oh and by the way, prime Fedor vs this Ngannou could have also been KTFO as well.
     
  19. bartleby929

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    There are levels to it. Just not in LHW without Rumble & JJ. Why are the lower level guys getting title shots. That was like a squash match.
     
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    Wrong. Tyson was technically gifted. You have no clue what you are talking about.
     

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