there's no proof that fedor wasn't in his prime when he fought werdum,hendo and bigfoot

To be fair he took a lot of damage against those pro wrestlers and people who literally had no pro fights prior.
 
Readybodisready said:
Of course Fedor was in his prime during his losing streak in SF. He was 33 in a career where he took less damage than any other top fighter in MMA(their words). It just shatters the image of Fedor that his rabid fans on sherdog have so they must claim he wasn't the same anymore.

Prime Fedor got finished 3 times in a row, one of them against an old MW. Not because he was past it, but because he stopped fighting the Choi's, Lindland's, washed up Sylvia's and glass chinned Arlovski's.
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The glass chin Arlovski beat Werdum with relative ease... funny that.

Maybe Fedor lost his hunger. You know. Like every other big time athlete does after a long time. It's hard to motivate yourself and train like you once did.
 
Typrune Goatley said:
- He broke his hand repeatedly for several years starting in 2003. You can't punch, grapple or lift weights when your hand is always broken. Even his own teammates said Fedor could no longer use his hand for takedowns for a while there.

- He had already lost in Sambo before he lost in MMA

- he had 10 years of competing in MMA by 2010, on top of competing in Sambo concurrently and an entire judo career before all that

- he was obviously slower and smaller by the time he started losing.

- he had already looked slow and lackluster in some of his last wins like vs Hunt and Arlovski

Why focus on his losses when he went 10 years undefeated and was the consensus #1 for 7 years? Only other person to stay on top that long was Jose Aldo and the same new fans are dragging his name through the mud now too. Everyone eventually loses if they fight long enough.


Fedor did not even lose until 33 years old.

Fedor and GSP both debuted at 23. GSP retired at 32 years old with 2 (or 3) losses after struggling with Hendricks. He only came back for one fight vs a 38 year old one eyed Bisping. Had GSP kept fighting all these years he would have eventually lost again just like Fedor and everyone else. Why is that so hard to understand for new fans?
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1: wheres the proof that fedor broke his hand? And a lot of fighters broke their hand in their prime.nothing special
2:so he lost in samba = out of prime in mma?
3:watch his fight,he look exactly the same.
4:just because you say he look slow when he performs the worst doesn't mean is true
5:so still no proof fedor was out of his prime when he fought bigfoot
 
use ocular evidence
 
Readybodisready said:
Of course Fedor was in his prime during his losing streak in SF. He was 33 in a career where he took less damage than any other top fighter in MMA(their words). It just shatters the image of Fedor that his rabid fans on sherdog have so they must claim he wasn't the same anymore.

Prime Fedor got finished 3 times in a row, one of them against an old MW. Not because he was past it, but because he stopped fighting the Choi's, Lindland's, washed up Sylvia's and glass chinned Arlovski's.
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Of course you're a delusional Anderson nuthugger who will go to any lengths to shit on Fedor

Fedor defeated Ricardo Arona in 2000 then didn't lose another fight until Fabricio fucking Werdum (absolute top 10 all-time) in 2010. If your simple mind wants to think Fedor was still in his prime after an undefeated decade of 29 fights, fights which included the top competition in the world, then go ahead and continue to dwell in your weird neurosis and pretend that Anderson didn't get starched by Japanese cans during his prime in Pride
 
wilKO said:
The glass chin Arlovski beat Werdum with relative ease... funny that.

Maybe Fedor lost his hunger. You know. Like every other big time athlete does after a long time. It's hard to motivate yourself and train like you once did.
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Maybe this? Or maybe that? Any excuse other than admitting the fact that he lost to better fighters than himself right?

And Fedor did not lose his hunger, look at that gut, it never left him.
 
His own coaches said he wasn't as sharp *before* the Werdum fight (actually around the time of the AA and Rogers fights).

It's extremely obvious from the eye test that Fedor peaked around 2004-2005, after which he began a slow decline that gradually got worse over time from (IMO), lack of motivation, abandoning strength training and grappling for headhunting, and bad strategy..

That doesn't mean the losses don't count. But it's obvious that Fedor from 2004 beats Fedor from 2011 8 or 9 times out of 10.
 
You take a Randleman Suplex and tell me there is no damage.
 
TheAmericanGazelle said:
His own coaches said he wasn't as sharp *before* the Werdum fight (actually around the time of the AA and Rogers fights).

It's extremely obvious from the eye test that Fedor peaked around 2004-2005, after which he began a slow decline that gradually got worse over time from (IMO), lack of motivation, abandoning strength training and grappling for headhunting, and bad strategy..

That doesn't mean the losses don't count. But it's obvious that Fedor from 2004 beats Fedor from 2011 8 or 9 times out of 10.
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"His coach" no shit his coach would say that

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Readybodisready said:
Of course Fedor was in his prime during his losing streak in SF. He was 33 in a career where he took less damage than any other top fighter in MMA(their words). It just shatters the image of Fedor that his rabid fans on sherdog have so they must claim he wasn't the same anymore.

Prime Fedor got finished 3 times in a row, one of them against an old MW. Not because he was past it, but because he stopped fighting the Choi's, Lindland's, washed up Sylvia's and glass chinned Arlovski's.
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3sumrock said:
Fedor fans can come up with almost any excuses you can imagine
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Poor shills. Trying to make it more than it was. it happened years ago and he even lost recently to Mitrione..yet Fedor is still considered the GOAT because he simply isn’t prime anymore and his actual Prime is unmatched to the eye test to this day. Your uninformed shilling isn’t going to change that. You’re not going to sell that Prime Fedor loses to Bigfoot, Henderson, or Mitrione. Because people saw prime Fedor and we get the difference. You’re like statistic boys. You learn all you think you need to know from Wikipedia and fight finder.

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Readybodisready said:
Maybe this? Or maybe that? Any excuse other than admitting the fact that he lost to better fighters than himself right?

And Fedor did not lose his hunger, look at that gut, it never left him.
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He didn't lose to better fighters as he is the HW GOAT. That's like saying Hallman is a better fighter than Hughes. Everybody ranks Fedor above Hendo, Werdum and certainly Bigfoot. Not sure if you're serious.
 
faustian said:
Of course you're a delusional Anderson nuthugger who will go to any lengths to shit on Fedor

Fedor defeated Ricardo Arona in 2000 then didn't lose another fight until Fabricio fucking Werdum (absolute top 10 all-time) in 2010. If your simple mind wants to think Fedor was still in his prime after an undefeated decade of 29 fights, fights which included the top competition in the world, then go ahead and continue to dwell in your weird neurosis and pretend that Anderson didn't get starched by Japanese cans during his prime in Pride
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Fedor actually LOST against Arona in 2000. Fedor is 1-3 against MW's. Sherdog's HW GOAT beat one MW(when he was supposedly #1 HW mind you) and lost to 3 other MW's.

Yes he was prime for 29 fights and all of a sudden boom, loses and is past his prime.
 
I know he was much younger, but my brain always just placed Fedor at about a perpetual 45-years-old, or so. He just looks like some middle-age stevedore who should be in boots, Carhartt work clothes, a puffy orange vest, and a hard hat, while holding a Thermos of coffee in one hand and a clipboard in the other.

On the weekends he secretly goes out and beats people up for money.
 
wilKO said:
He didn't lose to better fighters as he is the HW GOAT. That's like saying Hallman is a better fighter than Hughes. Everybody ranks Fedor above Hendo, Werdum and certainly Bigfoot. Not sure if you're serious.
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Fedor is not even top 5 HW much less the GOAT. Werdum, Miocic, Cain, JDS and Overeem all surpassed him. They were all fighting and beating eachother while Fedor ducked them to fight the likes of Choi and Lindland instead. Oh wait he didn't duck all the best of Strikeforce, probably why he got brutally finished 3 times in a row.
 
Typrune Goatley said:
- He broke his hand repeatedly for several years starting in 2003. You can't punch, grapple or lift weights when your hand is always broken. Even his own teammates said Fedor could no longer use his hand for takedowns for a while there.

- He had already lost in Sambo before he lost in MMA

- he had 10 years of competing in MMA by 2010, on top of competing in Sambo concurrently and an entire judo career before all that

- he was obviously slower and smaller by the time he started losing.

- he had already looked slow and lackluster in some of his last wins like vs Hunt and Arlovski

- Werdum, Bigfoot and TRT Hendo were not chumps anyway. These are good fighters fighting a declined Fedor.

Why focus on his losses when he went 10 years undefeated and was the consensus #1 for 7 years? Only other person to stay on top that long was Jose Aldo and the same new fans are dragging his name through the mud now too. Everyone eventually loses if they fight long enough.


Fedor did not even lose until 33 years old.

Fedor and GSP both debuted at 23. GSP retired at 32 years old with 2 (or 3) losses after struggling with Hendricks. He only came back for one fight vs a 38 year old one eyed Bisping. Had GSP kept fighting all these years he would have eventually lost again just like Fedor and everyone else. Why is that so hard to understand for new fans?
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Yet GSP has 18 top 5 wins while fedor doesn’t even have half of that.
 
faustian said:
Of course you're a delusional Anderson nuthugger who will go to any lengths to shit on Fedor

Fedor defeated Ricardo Arona in 2000 then didn't lose another fight until Fabricio fucking Werdum (absolute top 10 all-time) in 2010. If your simple mind wants to think Fedor was still in his prime after an undefeated decade of 29 fights, fights which included the top competition in the world, then go ahead and continue to dwell in your weird neurosis and pretend that Anderson didn't get starched by Japanese cans during his prime in Pride
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TheAmericanGazelle said:
Why is that a "no shit" comment?

If anything, coaches generally try to big-up their fighters more than the opposite, especially before fights.
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Before I explain why that's a obvious shit comment.post a proof that his coach said that
 
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