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I have never seen Love Actually. Will have to google...though the title already doesn't really sit well with me from the get go.
I have never seen Love Actually. Will have to google...though the title already doesn't really sit well with me from the get go.
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What's wrong with the title?
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My generation's Christmas movie is goat.
Definitely one of the Greatest of All Time. Probably even Top 5.
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Well...if you were in charge of allocating $20M in movie funding and your job depended on that $20M turning a profit...would you invest in a Christmas movie and, if so, what would be your justification?
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Surprised the SJWs have not called for it to be banned yet.My generation's Christmas movie is goat.
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The Dad's a buffoon where the mother is wise, the lamp that objectifies women gets smashed, the male children are shown to be sex-obsessed gun-toting violent profane freaks from the moment they exit the womb. It's ahead of its time and allowed to stay.
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The problem is that the movies now are either geared towards children or try to be 'extreme' but end up corny. That 'office xmas party' looks awful. There's Bad Santa 2, but i don't see how that isn't just going to be a rip off of the first one, which i liked.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_theatrical_Christmas_films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_made-for-television_and_direct-to-video_Christmas_films
Have you seen all those?
Seems like Hollywood has increased the amount of xmas movies a year to about 3-4
how many more do you want?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_made-for-television_and_direct-to-video_Christmas_films
Have you seen all those?
Seems like Hollywood has increased the amount of xmas movies a year to about 3-4
how many more do you want?
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Plenty of movies come out every year. Some turn profits, some don't. Christmas movies, like horror movies, more often than not tend to do well against their budgets provided the movies themselves are not abysmal (i.e. receive good critical scores and positive word of mouth).
Let's look at just a few examples from the past 30 or so years (these are worldwide grosses BTW). Some of them were smash hits. Some were more modest successes. But I'm sure you'll agree that, especially once we add in revenue from home video rentals and sales, TV rights, any merchandise licensing, etc that they all turned a profit and in some cases a very handsome one.
What I think it demonstrates is that there's a very real appetite for these films during the holidays. If anything, you have to fuck a Christmas movie up pretty badly to NOT make money.
The Santa Clause
Budget: $22 Million
Box Office: $189 Million
The Night Before
Budget: $25 Million
Box Office: $52 Million
Elf
Budget: $33 Million
Box Office: $220 Million
Four Christmases
Budget: $80 Million
Box Office: $163 Million
How the Grinch Stole Christmas
Budget: $123 Million
Box Office: $345 Million
Love Actually
Budget: $40 Million
Box Office: $240 Million
The Family Man
Budget: $60 Million
Box Office: $124 Million
Bad Santa
Budget: $23 Million
Box Office: $76 Million
Home Alone
Budget: $18 Million
Box Office: $476 Million
Jingle All the Way
Budget: $60 Million
Box Office: $129 Million
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
Budget: $25 Million
Box Office: $71 Million
The Polar Express
Budget: $175 Million
Box Office: $307 Million
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A few things here. . .
1. I've seen a good many of them. Some on that list aren't really Christmas movies. (Maniac Cop 2? Lethal Weapon? Die Hard? Being set during Christmas does not make them Christmas movies). And some are so old that they're only going to appeal to me as a historical curiosity.
2. Nearly all of the made-for-TV and DTV Christmas movies are fucking terrible. Networks like The Hallmark Channel and ABC Family churn out dozens of them every year, but here's the kicker: They are not good. I have tried to watch them and they are almost all shitty love stories that usually go something like this: Lonely divorced mom gets a magical Christmas present in the form of a man to love her. Which leads me to my next point. . .
3. The thread title is "There should be more GREAT Christmas movies." Emphasis on the great. Can you name even FIVE great Christmas movies from past decade? Or hell, even five really good ones? I thought A Christmas Carol (2009) and Four Christmases (2008) were pretty good, but that's it. That's all I got. You?
Like I said, I don't consider a lot of what's on that list to be legitimate Christmas movies. Tangerine is certainly not. Horror films, even if they're Christmas themed, are not what I mean when I say "Christmas movies." And then you have shit like Nativity 3: Dude, Where's My Donkey, and I hope it's obvious why I'm choosing to ignore its existence.
If anything, the list you posted just proves my point: Not much at all has come out in the past several years in terms of quality Christmas entertainment.
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Well i think most people here would consider die hard a christmas movie
But to succinct the conversation -- the term great is subjective and something you didn't like, others will
and i really liked arthur christmas, Harold and Kumar christmas and i thought Krampus and Love The Coopers were very good.
I guess it comes down to what people like.
edit -- if we are going back a decade im adding a christmas carol , fred claus and deck the halls.
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I know some people do and I don't really understand it. It's an action movie that is setting during Christmastime, rather than a movie that's really about Christmas.
Yeah, it's true, I mean maybe some people think that Nativity 2: Danger in the Manger is a fucking great film. Of course it's all subjective. But even here, you came up with four titles. Four quality titles in a decade is not that great.
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i didnt see that you said "in the last decade" to name five so i added 3 more.
7 good to great christmas movies in 10 years is not that bad considering its a niche market that has one relevant month to be released
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You listed a slew of shit, and then left out Scrooged. Hell is wrong with you?
My three Christmas movies:
Scrooged
Christmas Story
Bad Santa
My three Christmas movies:
Scrooged
Christmas Story
Bad Santa
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Indeed. I would disagree about Fred Claus and would certainly disagree about Deck the Halls, but as you say it all comes down to what people like.
Personally, I'd like one a year though. One legitimately solid, entertaining, re-watchable Christmas movie per year (averaged out). I'd be satisfied with that.
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I'm down for Scrooged. It's not at the top of my list, though.
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I regard three of those as Christmas movies. And three as movies that are merely set during Christmas.
