The world’s fastest supercomputer is back in America

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  1. Madmick

    Madmick Scholar of Taghaza Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    The world’s fastest supercomputer is back in America
    Meet Summit
    Not reading this article again, I came across this yesterday, so I'm not sure if it's the one I read that mentioned this, but apparently if you were to calculate 1 equation successfully every second it would still take you 6.3bn years to perform an equal number of calculations that this computer will conduct in that same single second.

    [​IMG]

    Happened on Trump's watch following a 14% corporate tax reduction. I do not accept this is a coincidence.
     
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    Trump is evil and he’s going to send America back to the Stone Age. Supercomputers are fascist and anti lgbt.

    ...Trump also boosted NASA’s budget. You’re gonna see a lot more space stuff under trump.
     
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    Frump is the new Bill Gates! Checkmate libs!

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    If you think the Trump effect built this one you're underestimating how long time it takes to develop a supercomputer. Computers that are estimated to be at least five times faster than Summit have already been in development for quite a while, and they are not close to being finished.
     
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    We need to push r&d into quantum computing. It will revolutionize many fields from medicine to optimization (something traditional computers frankly suck at).

    If you’re not familiar, check out IBM Q.
     
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    But i was told on here that China was going to take over the world?
     
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    You read through that thread? Nah.
     
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    Madmick Scholar of Taghaza Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Oh, build supercomputers, do you?

    This project was conceived in 2014, but they didn't undertake to execute actually building/financing beyond the planning until November of last year.
     
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    It was funded by DOE (dept of energy).

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-US-launches-Summit-supercomputer-1106187.html

    Summit was one amongst the projects to receive USD325 million of funding announced in 2014 by then-Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz.

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    You obviously have no idea how long it takes to get funding from the US government... lol
     
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    The very first sentence of your article shoulda tipped you off on whether the coincidence is true or not...

    Ps it’s not true... at all...

    Lol
     
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    Computational efficiency is a social construct. You guys are all dead wrong.
     
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    Madmick Scholar of Taghaza Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If just for a bit more patience. It's almost like I'm dropping hints:

    "In 2014, this disruptive approach to HPC innovation led to IBM being awarded two contracts to build the next generation of supercomputers as part of the US Department of Energy’s Collaboration of Oak Ridge, Argonne, and Lawrence Livermore, or CORAL program."
     
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    WTF does this have to do with the supercomputer Summit and Trump???

    You're losing it homey...
     
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    Madmick Scholar of Taghaza Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Relax. I'm in agreement with you. I'm entitled to a bit of fun. This was going much better than the last time until you showed up, stinker.
    For those who don't understand what the second two paragraphs were communicating, it was an allusion to how supercomputers are no longer really a matter of architectural rivalry, in terms of the sophistication of the designs, as it was during the height of the Cray vs. IBM rivalry of the 90's, but a race of parallel processing, reflecting the cheaper throw-cores-at-the-wall strategy popular with Chinese semiconductor upstarts, where they link together as many possible CPU clusters as they can onto a single football field in order to claim the top spot. So it's a bit of a dick-measuring contest.

    For that reason the supercomputer race in some ways reminds me of that major reveal of Elon's magical battery pack in his Tesla cars. Everyone was expecting some groundbreaking technology, but instead it was really a refinement of previously existing battery technology, just with a ton of these batteries linked together in the trunk.

    The TOP500 really is a measurement of business power more than technological proficiency, because the revenue to build these things is always going to be drawn from a combination of sectors, but more typically public investment; of course public investment is predicated on tax revenue, and that is strongly correlated with a country's GDP, and directly with its business garnishments.

    More saliently, almost all supercomputers are so expensive, and answer such a narrow need, that very few of them are privately owned at all. In fact, one of the questions I don't know the answer to off the top of my head is the last time-- if ever-- a privately owned supercomputer held the #1 position. Off the top of my head, the most powerful one I can think of that I know was purely owned privately was none other than Deep Blue, which beat Kasparov, and IIRC it was only the 16th most powerful in terms of FLOP power when it was created. That isn't what set it apart.

    This is a sobering truth for any conservative. It challenges the heart of the philosophical conviction that the private sector is always best suited to answer a need. There is almost no private entity large enough to own one that would have a need for it. Interesting quandary, indeed.

    While, unlike you, I did unironically support corporate tax reform, like you, I did not support the latest budget. I weary of this sudden zeitgeist among conservatives where we superstitiously attribute economic windfalls where there are none. When the economy was strong under Obama, around where I live, I often heard the pro-Trump voters echo the pro-Bernie voters with comments like, "That's Wall Street, not Main Street." Main street is definitely doing a bit better, at the moment, and kudos to Trump for this, but I can't remember the last time I heard a Hannity fan reference the Labor Force Participation Rate, or crow that the sky is falling because of the expanding debt or debt-to-GDP ratio. Apparently the worries of the inflation-to-wage ratio also suddenly disappeared merely because wages have gone up a bit.

    While I do believe that conservative approaches to economics and government can also succeed in the technological race, I want to generate awareness and reflection on the opportunity cost of those uncollected billions, and perhaps remind Trump supporters of the benefit that government spending in scientific research and development can have. I am quite liberal when it comes to this issue. It's one of the only things I think is worthy of public spending. And guess what? We're spending a shitload. If we're going to run up that debt let's run it up on stuff like this.

    Trump is the President who appointed Rick Perry, the man who in his own campaign promised to abolish the DoE just four years earlier (well, if he could have remembered), a few years prior to this Obama initiative. So the man who heads the body that financed this supercomputer, and will operate it for the American public good, is the same one who doesn't think that body should exist. Odd. If one frames the building of this computer positively as an accomplishment of Trump, when he wasn't even the President who ordered it, suddenly pro-Trump posters will whistle and holler their approval.

    Isn't that ironic? I don't think it should matter.
     
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    USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

    suck it rest of the world. Our computers are NUMBER ONE.
     
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