The War Room Bet Thread V3

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@cincymma79 v. @waiguoren

1. If the Democrats take the House as a result of the 2018 election, Trump will not sign a health care bill that receives 50% or more of the House Democrat votes and Senate Democrat votes before the 2020 presidential election.
2. @waiguoren for, @cincymma79 against
3. Election day 2020, or election day 2018 (if the Republicans keep the House)
4. Name bet
5. six months
6. Bet is a push if the Democrats don't win the House in 2018

@Lead, I'm good with this.

Let me get on the same page for #1. Whats "Senate Democrat votes before the 2020 presidential election" mean? Is it a continuation that the health care bill needs 50% House and 50% Senate Democrats voting yes?

Only catch here is the house bill has to make it through senate as well. Add that stipulation and I guess sig bet is fair?

The bet currently is making it null only if Democrats don't win the House. When you said this comment, were you also suggesting Dems have to win the Senate as well to avoid the bet going null or that 50% of Senate Democrats would need to vote yes to a health care bill.

Guys, I also want to flip the statement to reverse out the negative to this:
1. If the Democrats take the House as a result of the 2018 election, Trump will sign a health care bill that receives 50% or more of the House Democrat votes and 50% or more Senate Democrat votes before the 2020 presidential election.
2. @cincymma79 for, @waiguoren against

Is that okay to revise to?
 
Let me get on the same page for #1. Whats "Senate Democrat votes before the 2020 presidential election" mean? Is it a continuation that the health care bill needs 50% House and 50% Senate Democrats voting yes?



The bet currently is making it null only if Democrats don't win the House. When you said this comment, were you also suggesting Dems have to win the Senate as well to avoid the bet going null or that 50% of Senate Democrats would need to vote yes to a health care bill.

Guys, I also want to flip the statement to reverse out the negative to this:
1. If the Democrats take the House as a result of the 2018 election, Trump will sign a health care bill that receives 50% or more of the House Democrat votes and 50% or more Senate Democrat votes before the 2020 presidential election.
2. @cincymma79 for, @waiguoren against

Is that okay to revise to?
dems need the senate too. if a bill get to the president from a dem majority house/senate he will sign it. this is moot if dems don't get the hosue/senate
 
dems need the senate too. if a bill get to the president from a dem majority house/senate he will sign it. this is moot if dems don't get the hosue/senate

Okay, and I'm also assuming the 50%, you are talking about 50% or more in the House and then also 50% or more in the Senate?
 
@waiguoren

Define what you see as a healthcare bill. I'm trying to keep this simple but want to know if there's details I might be missing since that definition is important.
 
dems need the senate too. if a bill get to the president from a dem majority house/senate he will sign it. this is moot if dems don't get the hosue/senate

What? This isn't moot if the Democrats don't get the Senate.

I guess I'll still take the bet if you insist on that language, but I expect the Republicans to hold the Senate and therefore our bet will be nullified.
 
@waiguoren

Define what you see as a healthcare bill. I'm trying to keep this simple but want to know if there's details I might be missing since that definition is important.
Any bill that whose primary purpose is to affect health insurance coverage/costs and whose total expenditure exceeds $5 billion.
 
What? This isn't moot if the Democrats don't get the Senate.

I guess I'll still take the bet if you insist on that language, but I expect the Republicans to hold the Senate and therefore our bet will be nullified.
Ok modify it a tad to if the bill makes it fhrough senate
 
Any bill that whose primary purpose is to affect health insurance coverage/costs and whose total expenditure exceeds $5 billion.

Something like Medicare or Medicaid expansion would count?
 
Something like Medicare or Medicaid expansion would count?
Good point!

I don't think @cincymma79 was referring to Medicare but rather to health insurance coverage for the non-elderly. Let's have him clarify.
 
Good point!

I don't think @cincymma79 was referring to Medicare but rather to health insurance coverage for the non-elderly. Let's have him clarify.
Yes that would be fine too but would prefer it to be for the non elderly. If you want to make it more interesting we can do an either or with college, same language.
 
Something like Medicare or Medicaid expansion would count?
What are the rules for name change anyway? Since we are on this. Probably have to ask again when and if the time comes because I’ll forget
 
What are the rules for name change anyway? Since we are on this. Probably have to ask again when and if the time comes because I’ll forget

I would need to double check but off the top of my head:
-No profanity
-No name assuming the identity of a past poster
Anything else we could figure out based on the idea thrown out for a final okay.
 
Something like Medicare or Medicaid expansion would count?

Good point!

I don't think @cincymma79 was referring to Medicare but rather to health insurance coverage for the non-elderly. Let's have him clarify.

Yes that would be fine too but would prefer it to be for the non elderly. If you want to make it more interesting we can do an either or with college, same language.

How about a public option for health insurance or even universal healthcare? Does something with just children like CHIP count? I think it's already been extended three years but I can't recall.
 
How about a public option for health insurance or even universal healthcare? Does something with just children like CHIP count? I think it's already been extended three years but I can't recall.
no extensions for existing programs, except for raising the cap on medicaid some significant amount like 5-10000. if they extend chip to cover all kids or greatly increase the funding for it that's fine. this is going to get in the weeds.

a major bill which changes drastically the programs for those not already on them
 
We should create a politics sportsbook. Come up with 25 or 30 bettable lines on political events and such. Set some lines and have WarRoomers bet on as many of those events/lines as they want. Start all WR members with either 10k Trump Bucks or 10K Clinton Coins
 
By the way, @Lead
Just perusing. I think #28 needs to be updated since Trump's SCOTUS appointment went through.
 
By the way, @Lead
Just perusing. I think #28 needs to be updated since Trump's SCOTUS appointment went through.

Is this sarcasm? I think the vote hasn't happened yet cause of the recent allegations?
 
By the way, @waiguoren and @cincymma79

I haven't finished your bet yet cause I've been trying to figure out a clearer way to define what bill would count and what wouldn't. I figure we have sometime since midterms aren't close yet.
 
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