The top muay thai gyms today

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  1. jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    1. Sitsongpeenong: It wouldn't be fitting if the best fighter in the world, Sittichai Sitsongpeenong, didn't come from the best camp in the world. But by combining the best of traditional muay thai training and modern western methods, such as boxing and strength and conditioning training, Sitsongpeenong has become just that, the best of muay thai bar none. Not content with being a one hit wonder Sitsongpeenong unleashed the terror otherwise know Thongchai on the unsuspecting world. At only 21 years old and all the potential in the world, Thongchai is poised to become nothing less than the future of muay thai, after having already become the youngest Lumpinee champion in history. With other great fighters such as Manowan, Phetwanlop and Yodpayak waiting in the wings it will be difficult for anyone to knock Sitsongpeenong off the throne in 2017.




    2. Banchamek gym: Any gym with a living legend like Buakaw behind it would naturally be a force to be reckoned but Banchamek has still managed to surpass everyone's expectation. Like phoenix ascending from the ashes, of his messy divorce with Por. Pramuk gym, Banchamek gym quickly rose to the top of the sport, thanks in no small part to the phenomenon that is Buakaw. After having dominated kickfighting for the duration of the 2000's, Buakaw seemed to have become complacent, content to simply beat whichever cans thai fight put in front of him. Now, however Buakaw seems to have gotten his mojo back and has taken impressive wins recently over great fighters like Andrei Kulebin, Tian Xin, and Dylan Salvador. But, in spite of Buakaw's resurgence, it was the amazing performances of Superbon which really put this gym over the top. Benefiting from a modernised strength and conditioning and western boxing program, a recurring theme in this analysis, Superbon has built upon his base as a muay thai stadium fighter who was simply capable of competing with Thailand's best to become a complete kickboxer capable of beating with the world's best. All of this culminated in him winning the Kunlun 70kg tournament in late 2016 and early 2017 where he picked up stirring victories over Sittichai Sitsongpeenong and Jomthong Chuwattana. Living up to the mantle of "the next Buakaw" is a tall order for anyone, but the very greatest fighters of all time, but if anyone can do it Superbon can.




    3. Sitmonchai: During a dark period in the history of muay thai in thailand where the pernicious effects gambling have caused almost all thai fighters to 'play the game', Sitmonchai fighters have distinguished themselves by always going for the kill and looking to finish the fight, instead of playing the points game. Using an unusual arsenal of blistering combination punching and chopping leg kicks, something more often found in 'dutch style' kickboxing than traditional 'thai style' muay thai, living legends Pornsanae and Thepnimit Sitmonchai have etched their names into the annuals of muay thai history. The future for Sitmonchai also looks very bright with 22 year old prodigy and Glory fighter Yodkhunpon bringing their brutal style into the kickboxing ring.



    4. Fairtex: Mark my words when I say that 2017 will be the year of Yod! So far there has not been much in the kickfighting year of 2017, which can be said to have got the blood pumping but the return of Yodsanklai Fairtex is one of them. Already far and away one of the best nak muays of his generation, and a first ballot hall of famer, it is reassuring to know that Yod's competitive fire still burns bright. Bolstered by a new crossfit routine, which seems to have paid major dividends (once again showing how strenghth and conditioning has often been majorly overestimated in traditional thai training), Yod looked revitalised in his Kunlun return.

    The other major jewel in the Fairtex crown is Kaew. Now, and this may be an unpopular opinion so don't flame me lol, but IMO Kaew is overrated, he has mostly been fighting in Japan against asians who aren't as athletic as the fighters that Sittichai and Yod have been facing in Europe like Grigorian, Neves and Zuev. Nevertheless, Kaew is the #1 ranked fighter by respected kickboxing outlets like Liverkick and Combatpress, so that has to count for something.



    5. Kiatmookao: Having already accomplished some notable accolades domestically Kiatmookao decided that they were tired of being a big fish in a small pond and have expanded their horizons to include Europe and America, where the big boys play. However, despite being the new kids on the block Kiatmoo9 is well positioned to make a push into elite company in 2017 and into the future. Much of this can be attributed to the youth of their fighters.

    Glory newcomer Petpanomrung made an impressive debut at Glory 35, and at only 21 years old has plenty of time to improve. The Kiatmoo9 product who I am most interested in seeing develop however is the young Mananchai. With stalwarts like the great Saenchai getting a bit long in the tooth, Yokkao has been looking for a fresh face to carry the brand. It seems as though they have found a worthy successor in the young bull Manachai Kiatmookao, who at only 20 years old is already a muay thai superstar. Although between you and me, it would have been even better if they could have signed Litteweda who you could argue is already greater than Saenchai and only 19 years old! This gym is one to look out for going into 2017.



    Honourable mention: Superprosamui
     
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  2. muaydan667 White Belt

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    " new crossfit routine " lol
     
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    lame
     
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    We've heard it all too many times m8
     
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    New technology and training methods have shaken up Muay Thai, but wait until western sense becomes hands-on. Every top gym will have someome similar to Ruebusch, Kenshin and Slack who will transform the outdated fighter into a modern fighting machine.
     
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    sarcasm or not. western fighters are usually way too big for thai fighters. peter aerts crushes saenchai like a bug and you know it.
     
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    My sworn enemies. Add in Luke Thomas, Fraser Coffeen, Patrick Wyman, and a couple other so-called analysts and you'd have yourself a proper set of deplorables.
     
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    What are the best gyms with regard to elite home-grown fighters? Kiatmoo9?
     
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    One of the big draws to Muaythai for me as a sport is the abundance of analysts that help to walk you through it, most others sports you can only sit and watch the fight/game, where's the fun in that?!?
     
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    I think CSA gym should be up there tooo
     
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    Good point. Between muay thai legend Kevin Ross fighting Saenchai for the only ever WBC Diamond belt and producing muay thai prodigies like Gaston Bolanos and Gabriel Mazzetti, CSA has really planted the flag for muay thai in the US. And fortunately their work is being recognized, with seminars from some of muay thai's foremost luminaries, like Kru Dam, Andy Souwer, Duane Ludwig, Ramon Dekkers, Rob Kaman and Damien Trainor, it's clear that the kickfighting world is standing up to take notice of what's happening Dublin, CA!
     
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    sanechai who?
     
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    The next step is to send this to a 'combat sports' site and see if they publish it.

    Also no mention of Sasiprapa?
     
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    I don't always like the style of their fighters but they are pretty impressive IMO. as far as I know gyms like Petchyindee, PKSaenchaigym, Jitmuangnon and other have bought most their elite fighters while Kiatmoo9 has mostly homegrown starts. not sure if this is correct though.
     
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    I think that Panpayak, Kiewpayak and Yodpanomrung have all been with Jitmuangnon and developed from a young age. They, unlike pretty much all the top Kiatmoo9 fighters (except Wanchai), may have started at other camps when they were just starting, but they became what they are today with Jitmuangnon. Very few elite fighters fight out of the same camp they started with.
     
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    obviously none of you have read Jack Slack's latest piece on Alistair Overeem's unique ability to land knees from the clinch, without the need to break his opponents' posture. Imagine if other fighters were able to lift their knees to head heights - it would be the biggest game changer since Ramon Dekkers introduced punches to traditional muay thai.

    "Among many fighters there is the belief that the opponent’s posture must broken in order to knee him in the head. If you look at some of the best fighters at landing their knees from the clinch—particularly Demetrious Johnson—you will notice that it is more often a case of bringing the knee up to the target. A fighter who can comfortably put in knees up by his own shoulders has a great advantage in striking from the clinch.";

    "(...) the hurting knee came in at a height you won’t see in the heavyweight division and Hunt’s posture was only momentarily flexed by Overeem’s grip. Any heavyweight who could bring knees up to the head of an upright opponent in the style of Demetrious Johnson or Masaaki Noiri could have some fun in that weight class."


    http://fightland.vice.com/blog/overeem-vs-hunt-ii-all-the-way-in-all-the-way-out
     
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    but isn't there a trend of big gyms buying fighters? that's the impression I get from PKSaenchaigym and Petchyindee 2.0 and I've read anorak refer to Jitmuangnon as a "gambler's gym" so I threw it along the other two without no real evidence.

    really everything that I know/think I know about muay thai (other than the fighting itself) is from collecting little tidbits of info trying to put two and two together - lots of assumptions and leaps of logic sometimes.
     
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