The Phoenix Lights (1997) Revisited

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John Wang

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This has always fascinated me.

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There were two incidents with this chit: Sightings of the very large flying v-shaped craft that was spotted by many many people, and then the stationary lights that were hovering over Phoenix later in the evening.

At about 18:55 PST (19:55 MST), a man reported seeing a V-shaped object above Henderson, Nevada. He said it was about the "size of a 747", sounded like "rushing wind", and had six lights on its leading edge. The lights reportedly traversed northwest to the southeast.[6]

An unidentified former police officer from Paulden, Arizona is claimed to have been the next person to report a sighting after leaving his house at about 20:15 MST. As he was driving north, he allegedly saw a cluster of reddish or orange lights in the sky, comprising four lights together and a fifth light trailing them. Each of the individual lights in the formation appeared to the witness to consist of two separate point sources of orange light. He returned home and through binoculars watched the lights until they disappeared south over the horizon.[6]






I want this thing to come back and hang out with us.
 
From Ortega's story:

It was plain to see, [Mitch] Stanley says. Under magnification, Stanley could clearly see that each light split into pairs, one each on the tips of squarish wings. Even under the telescope's power, the planes appeared small, indicating that they were flying high. Stanley says he followed the planes for about a minute, then turned his telescope to more interesting objects.

"They were planes. There's no way I could have mistaken that," he says.



The more widely seen, and talked-about lights were the ones hovering around 10 p.m. From Ortega:

Within days, Tucson Weekly broke the news that the Maryland Air National Guard, in Arizona for winter training, had a squad of A-10 fighters over the gunnery range that night, and they had dropped flares. An Arizona National Guard public information officer, Captain Eileen Bienz, had determined that the flares had been dropped at 10 p.m. over the North Tac range 30 miles southwest of Phoenix, at an unusually high altitude: 15,000 feet.



The "disappearance" was actually the lights dropping behind the Sierra Estrella mountain range. Channel 12 filmed a similar dropping of flares by military planes, which Ortega reported as looking "remarkably like the 10 p.m. lights of March 13."

An ASU astronomy professor, a physicist, and other scientists have reviewed the evidence, and found the explanation perfectly plausible. In fact, you can still find that physicist's complete report online.

As for the "vee," which wasn't talked about or disputed as much as the hovering lights, it never was disclosed who was flying those planes. According to Ortega's report, Luke Air Force radar operators said there was nothing unusual on the radar, and "a formation of five planes--traveling at high altitude above Sky Harbor's and outside of Luke's restricted air spaces--would not have been considered unusual."

Nobody bothered to request the radar information from the Federal Aviation Administration within two weeks, when such records were routinely deleted, so it'll never be known exactly where those planes came from.

However, the claim by UFO hunters was that this was some miles-long UFO (obviously alien) didn't pan out. Some people thought all the lights were part of one craft, but an analysis of the videotape made it clear that they were moving together in a formation, but they were independent of one another.
 
From Ortega's story:

It was plain to see, [Mitch] Stanley says. Under magnification, Stanley could clearly see that each light split into pairs, one each on the tips of squarish wings. Even under the telescope's power, the planes appeared small, indicating that they were flying high. Stanley says he followed the planes for about a minute, then turned his telescope to more interesting objects.

"They were planes. There's no way I could have mistaken that," he says.



The more widely seen, and talked-about lights were the ones hovering around 10 p.m. From Ortega:

Within days, Tucson Weekly broke the news that the Maryland Air National Guard, in Arizona for winter training, had a squad of A-10 fighters over the gunnery range that night, and they had dropped flares. An Arizona National Guard public information officer, Captain Eileen Bienz, had determined that the flares had been dropped at 10 p.m. over the North Tac range 30 miles southwest of Phoenix, at an unusually high altitude: 15,000 feet.



The "disappearance" was actually the lights dropping behind the Sierra Estrella mountain range. Channel 12 filmed a similar dropping of flares by military planes, which Ortega reported as looking "remarkably like the 10 p.m. lights of March 13."

An ASU astronomy professor, a physicist, and other scientists have reviewed the evidence, and found the explanation perfectly plausible. In fact, you can still find that physicist's complete report online.

As for the "vee," which wasn't talked about or disputed as much as the hovering lights, it never was disclosed who was flying those planes. According to Ortega's report, Luke Air Force radar operators said there was nothing unusual on the radar, and "a formation of five planes--traveling at high altitude above Sky Harbor's and outside of Luke's restricted air spaces--would not have been considered unusual."

Nobody bothered to request the radar information from the Federal Aviation Administration within two weeks, when such records were routinely deleted, so it'll never be known exactly where those planes came from.

However, the claim by UFO hunters was that this was some miles-long UFO (obviously alien) didn't pan out. Some people thought all the lights were part of one craft, but an analysis of the videotape made it clear that they were moving together in a formation, but they were independent of one another.

You won't say this chit to my face
 
I remember, that was the night that whore killed the hobo in her trunk:

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Is there an official or otherwise consensus on what this was?
 
flares shot from the planes or just overlapping concurrent events?
 
Flares... I believe Rick was his name. Woohoo!
 
The video was flares. For sure. That's not what people saw and took place significantly later than the reported sightings. I suspect it was a diversionary tactic. As for what was really seen, I don't have a theory.
 
The video was flares. For sure. That's not what people saw and took place significantly later than the reported sightings. I suspect it was a diversionary tactic. As for what was really seen, I don't have a theory.
This is also what I'm thinking. The lights at night are not the real deal.. that happened earlier in the evening.
 
I live in Phoenix. Not sure where I was for that. Probably playing video games in my house.

Although it's really non of my concern... unless they slowed down my porno then I say we nuke Mars.

That may not be where 'they' are from but it will show them we mean business. USA! USA!
 
Them chits traveled all over the state that day. It was strange and it was stranger how nothing really ever came of it.
 

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