Meh, I don't agree with that. Davis did better with their common opponent but Davis has been moved slowly. I believe Mikey Garcia has a better resume than Lomachenko, though.
because you're assuming that superior results from Tank against Pedraza means more than it does. It's similar to how Manny beat Hatton, DLH and Cotto in a more impressive fashion than Floyd, but he still lost to Floyd.
And that's obviously his whole point, e.g. that those assumptions were wrong back then and similar assumptions could be made about Lomachenko/Davis from the Pedraza performances, which would also be wrong.
Nah, thats a poor example. Look at what floyd did to Marquez. Thats what made it interesting, they were pretty even on paper.
Like most popular fighters, its the bandwagon effect that comes from Top Rank with their in house fighters who never face an opponent who could beat them.
I love how people like you who want to criticise Lomachenko on his performance pay no attention at all to the fact that's he just comeback after a majory shoulder surgery and was clearly fighting with one good arm. You don't factor that into his performance at all. You didn't find it odd that he threw only 2 lead hooks in the whole 12 rounds??
I'm not one who is big on making excuses for mediocre performances. Wilder claimed he had an injury too. He still looked sloppy and awkward against a guy people expected him to beat.
No. He should have pulled out of the fight if he was going to make excuses. He used the same injury to excuse to mediocre showings in a row.
Are you denying that Lomachenko tore his labrum in the Linares fight?? There are videos of it showing when it happened in the fight, I think it was in round 2 if memory serves me correctly.
I don't care. Its classless and tacky to take away from your opponent by talking about an injury.
So basically what you are saying is that no you have no other explanation as to why Loma fought one armed. Has Loma claimed that an injury affected his performance? No he hasn't said anything about it. I'm the one saying he was clearly affected by it since he didn't throw his lead hook. Wilder is the only one who brought up an injury.
yeah, but he didn't.
But they thought so based on looking at certain common opponents. Difference being that they were sort of split on who and how they dominated.
right, so arguing that X fighter would beat Y fighter based on a common performance isn't necessarily indicative of how a fight between X and Y would go right? Particularly when they have such different styles.
I'm sort of shocked that we're arguing about whether or not you should compare performance against common opponents when looking at a potential matchup.
