The Official Dragon Ball (Z, GT, S, etc.) Franchise Discussion Thread v3

[phunky]

10/10 episodes

Goosebumps bro, Ultra Instinct Goku is a fucking savage

 

[Hank The Tank]

One theory I heard about the reason there might be 2 Zenos is that they disagree about results of the tournament and get so mad at each other, they end up erasing each other. It will result in a power vaccuum which will segue into the next saga.

Cmon man!

Goku getting energy from Frieza at the end there, he will be back soon.

With the new form, I'm guessing he gets more powerful next time because either A) He gets more used to it (like all the other forms) B) He gets more 'spirit' energy from more people (other universes and/or gods even when they realize how powerful Jiren is.

I do like the idea that someone else mentioned that this arc might pivot to another arc before ending, it sure seems like something sinister can happen to end this tournament early. Some kind of double crossing or long con among the GoDs or angels, or someone doing something slight causing the Zeno's to get mad at each other and erase each other causing a power vacuum.

 

[kuromusha]

Cmon man!

Lmao

 

[RJ43]

Damn DB is back. UI Goku is the coolest thing they've done in years.

 

[skysolo]

ribrianne got an outside power up too..
zeno changes rules on the fly anyway (the mafuba was allowed) so it shouldn't be a problem.

aka plot hole.

 

[heavyarms21]

Damn DB is back. UI Goku is the coolest thing they've done in years.

Yup also looking up some of the Animators they brought in the best team for the 1 hour special just to showcase it

 

[bigdaddythunder]

Wow i guess i'm the only one who didn't like that ridiculous power up. UI is cool? No...no its not. Just a different color scheme for Goku. It is always the same damn thing. Goku gets beaten up, receives a fucking handjob power up , and beats the opponent. Doesn't help that all the fights look the same as they did in z. How is it any better?

 

[RJ43]

Wow i guess i'm the only one who didn't like that ridiculous power up. UI is cool? No...no its not. Just a different color scheme for Goku. It is always the same damn thing. Goku gets beaten up, receives a fucking handjob power up , and beats the opponent. Doesn't help that all the fights look the same as they did in z. How is it any better?

Except that it's totally different and he still go this ass kicked. Did you even watch it?

 

[Hidden_Hand]

Okay that was one of the best episodes and fights ever. And Goku transformation was nerd over load, I loved it.

Jiren at this point has no limit to his power so as it stands he is the strongest mortal ever including fusions imo

The clown god seems to know something about him aswell, the way he smirked when asked if Jiren could take out a god.

 

[Left Hook Lacy]

aka plot hole.

They could at least have Beerus and Quitela (?) or Beerus and Champa argue for a few seconds with someone screaming "Thats illegal! Disqualify them!" before the Zenos and the Grand Priest state its fine.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

Okay that was one of the best episodes and fights ever. And Goku transformation was nerd over load, I loved it.

Jiren at this point has no limit to his power so as it stands he is the strongest mortal ever including fusions imo

The clown god seems to know something about him aswell, the way he smirked when asked if Jiren could take out a god.

Yeah, I'm really curious about that. Do they have some kind of history? Belmod seemed rather sinister in that scene. Maybe he's not the good GoD of justice that we all think he is?

Jiren is crazy strong, but I think Vegito Blue from the Zamasu arc is stronger still.

 

[RJ43]

Yeah, I'm really curious about that. Do they have some kind of history? Belmod seemed rather sinister in that scene. Maybe he's not the good GoD of justice that we all think he is?

Jiren is crazy strong, but I think Vegito Blue from the Zamasu arc is stronger still.

I think one of the prevailing theories is that Jiren is some kind of conduit for Belmond's power, and that Belmond is controlling him for lack of a better term.

 

[GSP_37]

Why hasn't Japan made a good live action DBZ? They have Fullmetal Alchemist coming and other anime/manga live action.

 

[GhostZ06]

Why hasn't Japan made a good live action DBZ? They have Fullmetal Alchemist coming and other anime/manga live action.

no....

 

[Hidden_Hand]

Yeah, I'm really curious about that. Do they have some kind of history? Belmod seemed rather sinister in that scene. Maybe he's not the good GoD of justice that we all think he is?

Jiren is crazy strong, but I think Vegito Blue from the Zamasu arc is stronger still.

I think one of the prevailing theories is that Jiren is some kind of conduit for Belmond's power, and that Belmond is controlling him for lack of a better term.

We have been given very vague clues here, most notably a God of Destruction said that there was no way that Jiren and Goku has attained their power through normal training, now we know where Goku got his obviously.

But what has Jiren been upto? And who with?

Is he a prodigy? We can assume yes at this point. And it is all but confirmed he is the mortal who a God of Destruction cannot beat.

Goku in SSJ God faced Beerus at 70% at put up a reasonable fight and lost, then blue came and KaioKen x10 and now 20 making Goku infinitely more powerful than God form.

Let's say here he can fight Beerus up to 85%? This new forms power is unknown but he went from doing nothing to Jiren to making Jiren have a facial expression and even land a good strike so it's safe to assume he has gone to new heights in power especially seeing all the Gods reactions to him. And even then Jiren tanked him like he was nothing and all he had to say was 'these Saiyans are interesting beings'.

Oh and he made Hit look like a bitch while not even concentrating.

We've never seen a character like this before and we haven't even seen him try yet, he is going to new boundaries, you could argue he is more powerful or atleast as powerful as every God bar the Grand Priest and Zeno right now.

The Clown God hasn't stopped smirking this whole time and is way to relaxed considering he has three guys left.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

I think one of the prevailing theories is that Jiren is some kind of conduit for Belmond's power, and that Belmond is controlling him for lack of a better term.

Damn, that would be some serious cheating. If it's true and Zeno finds out, Belmod is fucked.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

We have been given very vague clues here, most notably a God of Destruction said that there was no way that Jiren and Goku has attained their power through normal training, now we know where Goku got his obviously.

But what has Jiren been upto? And who with?

Is he a prodigy? We can assume yes at this point. And it is all but confirmed he is the mortal who a God of Destruction cannot beat.

Goku in SSJ God faced Beerus at 70% at put up a reasonable fight and lost, then blue came and KaioKen x10 and now 20 making Goku infinitely more powerful than God form.

Let's say here he can fight Beerus up to 85%? This new forms power is unknown but he went from doing nothing to Jiren to making Jiren have a facial expression and even land a good strike so it's safe to assume he has gone to new heights in power especially seeing all the Gods reactions to him. And even then Jiren tanked him like he was nothing and all he had to say was 'these Saiyans are interesting beings'.

Oh and he made Hit look like a bitch while not even concentrating.

We've never seen a character like this before and we haven't even seen him try yet, he is going to new boundaries, you could argue he is more powerful or atleast as powerful as every God bar the Grand Priest and Zeno right now.

The Clown God hasn't stopped smirking this whole time and is way to relaxed considering he has three guys left.

Beerus being at 70% was only in the movie right? I think that was changed for the series.

If not, it wouldn't make sense tbh. Because if Goku SSG could put up a decent fight against 70% Beerus, SSB KKx10 Goku should stomp Beerus with ease. But Beerus was still stronger than Goku.

 

[Hidden_Hand]

Beerus being at 70% was only in the movie right? I think that was changed for the series.

If not, it wouldn't make sense tbh. Because if Goku SSG could put up a decent fight against 70% Beerus, SSB KKx10 Goku should stomp Beerus with ease. But Beerus was still stronger than Goku.

Possibly but I think the theory was what was Toriyamas concept on that last 30%?

No matter how powerful Goku gets he will just say but Beerus was using only 75% this time etc.

 

[snootylol]

The 70% thing is not cannon anymore.. Blue is also clearly stated as more powerful but Vegeta got absolutely rofl stomped by Beerus in the manga recently.

As for Belmod and Jiren.. Whis made it pretty clear this is probably the mortal stronger then a god of destruction. Its kinda odd.. Jiren has the power of a god but Toppo was in training to take over from Belmod.. Jiren can't be a former god cause the other gods/angels would recognise him

I hope Hit continues to improve his time skip and fight somewhat well with him next week

Wow i guess i'm the only one who didn't like that ridiculous power up. UI is cool? No...no its not. Just a different color scheme for Goku. It is always the same damn thing. Goku gets beaten up, receives a fucking handjob power up , and beats the opponent. Doesn't help that all the fights look the same as they did in z. How is it any better?

Err your not the only one man... like i didn't like how he got it.. but i did love the form itself. Goku always gets these kinda things given to him.. it didn't felt earned really.. I kinda miss when they got SSJ forms through rage

Anyone find it odd that Vegeta wasn't crazy pissed over the form? i wish he got something first for once but i think it wont be long till he gets it.. possibly in the tournament?

 

[HwoarangStyle]

The 70% thing is not cannon anymore.. Blue is also clearly stated as more powerful but Vegeta got absolutely rofl stomped by Beerus in the manga recently.

As for Belmod and Jiren.. Whis made it pretty clear this is probably the mortal stronger then a god of destruction. Its kinda odd.. Jiren has the power of a god but Toppo was in training to take over from Belmod.. Jiren can't be a former god cause the other gods/angels would recognise him

I hope Hit continues to improve his time skip and fight somewhat well with him next week



Err your not the only one man... like i didn't like how he got it.. but i did love the form itself. Goku always gets these kinda things given to him.. it didn't felt earned really.. I kinda miss when they got SSJ forms through rage

Anyone find it odd that Vegeta wasn't crazy pissed over the form? i wish he got something first for once but i think it wont be long till he gets it.. possibly in the tournament?

Im hoping vegeta gets his own unique form. Another level of ssgod, let goku have ultra instinct. Or just a new technique or something atleast.