The next generation of MMA combatants will be a whole new level

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  1. UFCBlackbelt

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    Think about it, the UFC has only been big for a little while. There are very few people who grew up with MMA being mainstream. In the next generation we will have parents who instill things like wrestling, boxing, bjj fundamentals at young ages. We will have athletes who understand from the get-go what is useful and what is not (aikido)
     
  2. Rondas Pillow

    Rondas Pillow Brown Belt

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    Mma still isn’t mainstream.
     
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    except we were having the exact same discussion 10-15 yrs ago
     
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    Like Romac?? Still got his shit pushed in by Lawler
     
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    Erik Silva is the future!
     
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    Yep agreed
    Elite strikers have yet to move to mma en masse
    Traditional martial artists are adjusting their training to be more reaslistic again
    Bjj is finaly its own pro sportwith massive growing base
    Mma gyms springing up like weeds in every city
    Thailand the home of real muay thai finaly easing its resistance to mma.
    China taking a growing interest with its legions of pro sanda practioniers as a great talent pool
    Catch making a welcome slow resurgance
    And of course the increasing money will tempt the atheltic to take it up early and top flight comvat atheltes to try it

    Overall we are in the baby stages of this sport still and thats exciting as hell!!
     
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    cburm Blue Belt Platinum Member

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    BRIAN ORTEGA and zabit are the next generation of mma the wrestling generation will be fading out soon.
     
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    Oh fudge, does that mean that we will NEVER see anyone make weight in MMA going forward?
     
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    I completely disagree. I think talent level has near peaked. People doing effective martial arts since they were kids is nothing new in this sport. Unless you’re talking about like 6 or 7 year olds? Which I don’t think has any bearing on future talent level. Guys like Whitaker and Wonderboy were doing full contact karate tournaments from a young age. Stipe was both a golden gloves boxer and life long wrestler. People like Thiago Alves and JJ have been doing Muay Thai since like 16 years old or something, and I don’t think training in something that physical at a younger age would be more beneficial in the long run, it might just burn you out and injure you earlier.

    Also it can be argued that just focusing on one sport and becoming very high level at that (like wrestling or Muay Thai or BJJ) then crossing over to mma, will always be more beneficial than training everything from a young age.

    Edit: I think any future increase in quality of fighters would come from more athleticism. Especially in divisions like heavyweight and LHW. When/if more guys with NFL genetics start wrestling and boxing in their teens instead of playing football, it could be a game changer.
     
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    It's entirely possible.
     
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    lol

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    This changes everything.
     
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    Good luck.

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    a top 5 mil. soccer makes 100-200k/year
     
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    Airdack Tiramisu can't melt steel pipes.

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    Its not gonna be mainstream. Its to brutal for casuals and the younger market. American culture is "softer" then it use to be. Many parents have a problem with their kids watching a sport were two people are locked into a cage and can use knee/elbows to cut and beat somebody to unconsciousness.

    Then we still have refs who let people get beat half to death. Simulated death knockouts like escort vs reem.

    Its too brutal for enough of the population to become truly mainstream. Boxing seems much more civilized with the only striking surface being large padded gloves and no ground striking.
     
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    Literally every generation thinks the next generation is “softer” and it’s rarely if ever true. To the contrary you could argue that Americans are more desensitized to violence than ever before. Some of the video games they make are like horror movies, and currently the most popular video game is fortnight. MMA is more popular than ever and the UFC just signed a deal with the largest sports network in the world. You can turn on the tv almost any day of the week and see men or women knocking themselves unconscious or choking each other out. Bare knuckle boxing is exploding in popularity as well and the ppv buys for BFC exceeded all expectations. There are at least 3 soccer moms in my neighborhood who have their kids in BJJ classes or enrolled at the UFC gym. There’s now an entire generation of post-Iraq PTSD veterans who experienced things most of the baby boomers never did. No generation before has experienced the mass shootings that we have or have lived through things like 9/11. If you think those experiences haven’t hardened us or made us tougher than the generation before, you don’t know much about the human psyche.
     
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    Lol look at 1950's US culture and now....its softer, more politically correct. Sorry some guy using his elbows to slice someone face up who is on the floor stuck against a mat and a caged fence isn't very intriguing to mainstream.

    I'm pretty sure soldiers storming a fucking beach head against a 1st world military power, into fortified machine gun fire, watching fellow soldier die in the masses next to them as the run and pray their not next, is more than a equal to more than an Iraq vet will face. Or maybe flamethrowing a fucking bunker and watching people burn alive. Or brutal japanese jungle combat vs an army that doesn't run and hide and use pussy guerilla tactics. Out of ammo, well fuck it Ill just charge and hopefully impale you with my bayonet.

    Btw the entire time having nothing bullet proof on except a helmet that can barely stop flush pistol rounds. The flak vest wasn't even in use until korea/vietnam. No helicopter medivacs, no computerized air support, no nightvision. Shit was pure brutality.

    You have no clue, ptsd was just minimized cause of mans man culture back then.

    I never said being softer is a bad thing, its natural progression with education and technology, but our culture now is much different then before.
     
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  19. VinceArch

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    Still a ways to go.
     
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    Politically correct? The word fuck is now being said on network tv, and the words bitch and shit have been said on it for a while now. You would’ve never seen that in the 50s. The most popular tv shows are inundated with violent rape scenes. Just google “TVs rape problem”. They wouldn’t even show a husband and wife laying in a bed together on tv.

    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/fcc-rules-for-television-2315405

    Song lyrics are worse then ever and they play on the radio. Hardcore porn is surging and currently the most popular category is incest porn.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/amp18194469/incest-porn-trend/

    In the 50s porn wasn’t even legal. Just because people stopped using the word fag and government buildings took down confederate flags, doesn’t mean culture is all around more politically correct.
     

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