The more I think about Eddie and Conor

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The more I think about this fight, the more contrived it feels and the less I care.
 
I think this fight will go the distance with Eddie having a better chance to win. If Connor wins, he should get to challenge Wonderboy for the WW title next.
 
One MMA Fan said:
Good read TS.

A few points.

Conor will be at the same weight or at most a handful of lbs lower then what we saw from him in his last fights.

Cardio wise for his bouts at "WW" (lol it's actually LW with a very little cut) weight cutting drains your cardio a lot so when a LW gets to fight at WW guess what.. his cardio should be in fact better since no heavy draining.

Eddie's wrestling isn't elite or better said isn't at the level of top specialized guys but here's the thing it doesn't need to be.. Conor ain't much of a wrestler himself so Eddie will be fine to take him down is my prediction.

I still didn't forget what Mendes did to Conor wrestling wise and I didn't forget Nate Diaz winning the clinch and even scoring a takedown on him and the Diaz bros aren't the best in those areas and let's not forget about the physicality side of things were again Eddie will have the edge when they grapple (if skinny fat, lanky Nate made it competitive the stronger Eddie will surely edge him out).

Eddie is a smart fighter and comes with good game-plans and I'm sure his coaches are drilling and working on defenses to be ready for that Conor left power hand.
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I definitely have to agree with this. I'm glad you can view it how I do. Eddie is a grinder and he's going to pace this. However this sport is very unpredictable and anything can happen. I guess that's why I had the need to write this on the forums to process my thoughts on this more then just saying "Eddie wins because this" or "Conor is the goat so he wins because *insert blind fan rage here*. I have Eddie for late submission in the third or fourth round.thats just me personally
 
I read the entire post, TS...you're fucking welcome.

To sum up my stance...its your basic striker vs wrestler with cardio and power.

Eddie has more ways to win which gives him the nod as being the favorite so I agree with your 60/40 split.

However, alot of people overlook Conor's reach, smarts and movement. He does have more than just his left hand and can do damage from different angles while keeping Eddie on the outside.

To say this is Conor's toughest fight of his career might not be so crazy. He has alot to deal with which Im sure he has prepared like a mad man for. If you're going to be the first ever simultaneous 2-division ufc champ it shouldnt be easy...and it wont. But its not going to be an easy title defense for Eddie, either.
 
Good post/analysis but fuck, man, some paragraphs would have done wonders for its legibility.
 
Warfist said:
I read the entire post, TS...you're fucking welcome.

To sum up my stance...its your basic striker vs wrestler with cardio and power.

Eddie has more ways to win which gives him the nod as being the favorite so I agree with your 60/40 split.

However, alot of people overlook Conor's reach, smarts and movement. He does have more than just his left hand and can do damage from different angles while keeping Eddie on the outside.

To say this is Conor's toughest fight of his career might not be so crazy. He has alot to deal with which Im sure he has prepared like a mad man for. If you're going to be the first ever simultaneous 2-division ufc champ it shouldnt be easy...and it wont. But its not going to be an easy title defense for Eddie, either.
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Haha thank you good sir I appreciate you reading through my jumbled analysis. I never thought it would be easy for neither fighter but I'm just favoring Eddie to win. The closer this fight gets the more amped I am to see them clash.

And sorry GlumberJack, I kinda had to post and leave for work haha or I would of fixed it. I'm replying through the iPad now on breaks and lunches haha
 
Warfist said:
I read the entire post, TS...you're fucking welcome.

To sum up my stance...its your basic striker vs wrestler with cardio and power.

Eddie has more ways to win which gives him the nod as being the favorite so I agree with your 60/40 split.

However, alot of people overlook Conor's reach, smarts and movement. He does have more than just his left hand and can do damage from different angles while keeping Eddie on the outside.

To say this is Conor's toughest fight of his career might not be so crazy. He has alot to deal with which Im sure he has prepared like a mad man for. If you're going to be the first ever simultaneous 2-division ufc champ it shouldnt be easy...and it wont. But its not going to be an easy title defense for Eddie, either.
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Good post, brotha.
Eddie is a different beast and extremely well rounded-much different then Nate.
Nate is much more of a stand-up guy (even though his ground game is great) and has fell in love with his boxing which is what Conor has going for him...
If Conor stays with this approach he WILL lose this fight. If he gas sured-up these holes and can sprawl and brawl he can surely put Eddie away in the 1st half of the figjt.
 
Didn't put that mcgregor"s striking in high level.

I'm pumped for the fight. I'm excited that we might see a guy get a belt in 2 divisions in the UFC (he will not be a simultaneous 2 division champ as there is an interim champ in the FW division).
 
eddie has a weak chin and throws wild hook combinations without protecting his face. conor is going to throw a straight down the middle and ko him sometime within the first 2 rounds

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throw looping punches like that against conor
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Pwent said:
eddie has a weak chin and throws wild hook combinations without protecting his face. conor is going to throw a straight down the middle and ko him sometime within the first 2 rounds

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throw looping punches like that against conor
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I guerentee you that if Eddie hits something that hard on Conor and Eddie charges in Conor will be swarmed just like the fight you are criticising and lose. 155 isn't 145 in terms of power. If Conor can shoot a left down the middle after getting hit how RDA got hit then count me in on the dick riding train.
 
HunterBuusta said:
The close it comes to the fight the more I try to analyze this fight. The more and more I think about the stats and after recently going through some old fight videos on both fighters - I see this fight as a 60/40 split in terms of how this fight will go. 60 in favor of Eddie and 40 in favor of Mcgregor.

- What we know about Eddie -

The general argument that I tend to see (and I am also very guilty of this) is that Eddie is a cardio machine and a beast of a wrestler. He's thick and carries 155 well and can impose his will on other fighters relatively easy. Pros of Eddie is we know he can control the octagon. He can pace himself well and plays his fights where he wants them to be. He can take shots and soak damage and recover from them. This is something that Eddie will need against Conor as we know that his left hand is a devastating weapon in his arsenal and his boxing and movement is on point until he gases (which can be said about any fighter). Eddie has decent hands and he throws kicks to the leg to slow down his opponent.
The problem I have with the first sentence that everyone likes to argue for this fight is that we don't see Eddie show those amazing wrestling skills that he says he has and everyone floats with when it comes to this fight. When I rewatched Eddie vs. Pettis the thing I noticed is yes, he pushed Pettis to the cage and did control him for a majority of the fight. What else did we get from this however? Eddie never got to punish Pettis on the ground. It was a lot of pushing his back against the cage and holding him where he wanted him to be. Holding him and making Pettis work. Pettis was able to stay up and save himself from getting completely grinded on. Also in the end 3rd round of this fight Eddie was getting sloppy and Pettis began to smack Eddie with some pretty good combos and capitalize on this.
Lets get to RDA vs. Eddie. I loved this fight and I picked RDA to finish Eddie in this fight. Eddie was being consistent but when he shot for his take down it was stuffed and to be honest I saw RDA being on another level then Eddie throughout this fight. Due to Eddie being able to counter on an opening however, we see that hard work pays off and Eddie becomes champ.
Points to know;
- Eddie can impose his will when wanted
- He has good recovery and can out cardio most fighters
- He has good reaction time and can capitalize on openings
- He claims to have excellent wresting but I have yet to see him hold someone on the mat yet
- He can be sloppy and his striking looks to fade at points
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- What we know about Mcgregor -
Lets revisit some of what we know that is obvious.
Conor is excellent at counter punching as well as utilizing kicks and punches that make him hard to read. at times. His striking is his best attribute and I won't argue that his stand up is next to none when it comes to most fighters. He has a left hand from hell and great reaction time and knows how to keep distance and has full control of range most to every time he fights. We all know that his ground game is very weak but he knows the general amount to keep safe. Jump back to the Mendes fight. A lot of nut huggers will always say "but he won" this and "a win is a win". What we saw was exposure. Chad was coming off the couch for that fight and still held Conor and beat on him that fight regardless of what anyone says. The only reason I saw Conor escape everything happening to him is A.) He was fighting a late notice Mendes and B.) He is a much bigger man than Mendes making it a little easier to pop Chad off him and finish the fight. I don't want to even include his flash KO of Aldo because we didn't learn much of his skill set from that fight. All his other fights prior to Chad except Max were easy style match-ups for him and were tailor made since he is a very big FW. So now Conor moves to 170 to fight Nate. What did we see. Conor was much heavier, obviously. He didn't respect the fact that he was at a larger weight class and tried to throw his technique around like he was still at 145. We all know what happened in the first fight. I am more interested to talk about his second fight. Knowing where he stood at a much larger weight he had to adjust to fight Nate again. He was still sloppy after round 2. He became flat footed quickly and the only way he could survive was to walk away and recover and wait for rounds to end to take a break. His punches weren't as fluent and although he had some nice knock downs the first and second against Nate, we can all see the holes in his cardio now.
Points to know;
- Conor has great boxing and stand up technique in general
- He knows how to stay in his comfort zone and use distance
- He stays fresh at a solid pace for at least 2 rounds.
- When he does gas he becomes flat footed and can't work his skill set to his advantage
- He has very weak ground game
- At a larger weight class he just isn't as crisp

My thoughts on their fight.

In my personal belief I think Conor will look good at 155. I don't think he will gas as easily as he did at 170. However I do think he will gas and it will be way earlier than Eddie will. From what I seen from Eddie he can recover great and knows how to hang in there. Although Conor can throw great combo's and can connect his left hard and accurately, I see Eddie surviving the storm. Eddie is a heavier man and if he gets on top of Conor it isn't going to be as easy to get him off as it was for Mini Mendes. Even if Conor can stuff Eddie's take downs I don't see him being able to push Eddie off of him against the cage or switch with him like he was with Nate on their second fight. Conor in my opinion will gas around round 3. I don't see a flat footed Conor doing well against Eddie's boxing and definitely not against his clinch and ground game. I think Conor has a 40% chance in this fight and that's if he can apply a left crisply and clean. If he can catch Eddie after that he might get the KO. I honestly see a punchers chance for Conor in that fight and although those have won fights I just don't see it against Eddie.

That's just my thoughts on everything. It's a broad overview and I skimped on some fights. I love Conor and I do think he is a GOOD fighter. If he beats Eddie I think I will finally credit more to him and look past some of his fans that look at him like he's a god. Until then I look forward to 205 and the results regardless of my general analysis. To the victor goes the spoils!
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MayhemMonkey919 said:
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He wasn't tired or flat footed yet. Also said in other posts that within the first two Conor is dangerous. I made this post to analyze a fight and state an opinion. Not to hate on Conor. And like all you "fans"0 you stumble in here not bring humble of anything when I've said my respect s already lmfao
 
ricioyourdoom said:
sorry but mcgregor doesnt take damage
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Where did you quote me there? I had predicted Conor McGregor in 3rd round TKO in just about every post.

P.S. Never mind, its right above me.....i must have had a momentary lapse of reasoning here. I had said many times in past month...i have Conor McGregor 3rd round TKO. I had changed my mind, dont want to make excuses for whats evident, i had picked Alvarez on the 26th...but i believe about a week later i changed it to McGregor 3rd round TKO. Thank you for quoting me here, i sincerely dont even remember this.
 
Glove said:
Where did you quote me there? I had predicted Conor McGregor in 3rd round TKO in just about every post.

P.S. Never mind, its right above me.....i must have had a momentary lapse of reasoning here. I had said many times in past month...i have Conor McGregor 3rd round TKO. I had changed my mind, dont want to make excuses for whats evident, i had picked Alvarez on the 26th...but i believe about a week later i changed it to McGregor 3rd round TKO. Thank you for quoting me here, i sincerely dont even remember this.
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i had 20 on him in the 2nd round.

i had him to win vs poirier & KO in 1st round(won about 500 here), I had him win vs Aldo & KO in 1st round.
 
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