The Great Flyweight Purge

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  1. Sansnom

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    Cejudo vs Dillashaw at UFC 223?

    Nice thread btw
     
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    That's the rumor.

    Edit: Sorry at 233 in Anaheim.
     
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    I don't understand why we have wmma 145, which has one girl, and 125, which is all women who moved up or down a weight class, but we're getting rid of flw, which has some legitimate talent. Several of those guys could make waves at 135, but will be too small to get the gold. It's a shame
     
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    Bothers me a bit they didnt even get the chance to move up, they just got axed.. even if they were in camp for a fight, thats uber fucked up those guys are all out of pocket
     
  7. jei

    jei Danger Zone Admin Staff Member Forum Administrator Senior Moderator Administrator

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    I think this is bullshit. At least cut WMMA too.
     
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    would be way too many BW's don't ya think?
     
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    Marco Beltran - released (3 fight losing streak, not tested by usada since september 2017 - no way is he still signed)



    Jenel Lausa - isnt on your list, I think hes been released though
    Jordan Espinosa - not on your list, was due to make his debut but got injured, no idea if hes still contracted
     
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    135, 145, 156, 168, 181, 195, 210, HW. Who's complaining? This make much more sense than the current weight class structure.
     
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    jei Danger Zone Admin Staff Member Forum Administrator Senior Moderator Administrator

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    The italicized fighters in the spoiler section I marked for notekeeping purposes that they had a fight scheduled. I also have an "upcoming flyweight bouts" section listing the scheduled fights.

    Didn't know about Beltran's cut but he lost three in a row so it's understandable. His social media still says UFC so do we have a source confirming he's gone?
    Nicolau lost to Ortiz in July, I thought his suspension was up in 2017 unless he popped again and I missed it.
    Lausa was released in June, correct.
    Espinosa still hasn't made his debut but I'll add him to the list.
     
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    they get rid of men's flyweight, but keep the wmma divisions...gee, that makes tons of sense...I don't think I know anyone that actually likes watching wmma...you can't keep 3 divisions of women, when there are literally only 2 or 3 people out of all 3 divisions that anyone even knows or cares about....cyborg, holly and maybe nunes...but not sure anyone gives a rat's ass about muff eating nunes...I like watching cyborg fight..but other than her, that's it...you cant keep divisions alive for 2 people....maybe throw in rose and joanna, but even they don't bring in much money.
     
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    I think you'd be surprised.
     
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    going by the comments on here, and the people I know that watch...the vast majority can't stand womens mma...I think the ufc is only keeping them for political reasons...
     
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    Wow. That sucks for a lot of guys. Why wouldn't they keep someone like Torres?

    Sergio must have had a feeling. After his last fight he said he was moving up to BW, which didn't really make sense to me. He seemed out-sized there.

    Also I'm not sure where most can go. Bellator doesn't have a FLW division anymore, and I doubt they would pick up those FLW for BW, unless it was someone like Pettis. PFL didn't even have a BW tourney.
     
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    ok, ignore me on Nicolau Pereira, was going down my list and totally forgot it was 2018 not 2017.

    Beltran, nothing official, but he lost three straight and his last USADA test was 18 October 2017. A year without being tested tells me hes not in the testing pool. (55 weeks ago)




    the ones on the cusp of being cut...

    fighting for their contracts:

    David Joby Sanchez - 0-2 UFC
    Ashkan Mokhtarian - 0-2 UFC
    Eric Shelton - 1-3 UFC

    All three will almost certainly be cut if they lose their upcoming fights (and even wins probably wont save them)
     
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    .....and because two of the biggest rated tv cards in years were headlined by women... (shev v holm, and waterson v pvz). Women have consistently pulled decent ratings on network tv

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    when the guys can do numbers close to theirs then they will scrap wmma.


    First fight announced for an ESPN card? PVZ v Ostovich, its not a co-incidence
     
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    Oh don't get me wrong, I agree that Beltran is either on the chopping block or was already quietly released and we just never heard anything. He's been MIA for a long time, and your stats of the testing pool further corroborate that. One of those fighters that they put on the shelf and left there, they do that from time to time.

    I imagine after this weekend we'll have more cuts depending on who wins and loses on the Denver card. Same will go for the others that lose on upcoming fights, it's not looking good for them. I'd be surprised if they schedule any more flyweight fights till the end of the year.
     
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