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  1. Graverobber ******WTF Belt******

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    Max overly aggressive, both he and Vettel lose out on that move.

    Ricciardo with stellar performance while Mercedes and Ferrari both being caught out with poor strategies.

    Glad to see Kimi on the podium after his teammate almost ran him off the track at the start.

    God, the egos on some of these guys. (looks at Vettel, Hammy and others)
     
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  2. mr.bigglesworth Silver Belt

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    Yeah Vettel was out a couple laps longer than Bottas. Ferrari did luck out a bit with the really late Kimi pit- without that SC he's out of the top 5.


    I really think something needs to be done about qualifying and (wishfully)turbulent air. I'm not sure something can actually be done about the latter, but you can easily see that all but 2 teams have a chance in quali even though race pace is quite competitive among the top 10 or so drivers. I'm always more interested in what's going on between places 5-12 than anything else. I mean, if you put Alonso in a top 5 starting position he's probably winning races more often than not.

    It'd be interesting if somehow starting position was determined by several factors from practice data or additional quali data(fastest sector times rewarding bumps in positions) in addition to the current fastest lap system. Obviously this probably will never happen but I think with enough effort it could be done reasonably well.
     
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  3. mr.bigglesworth Silver Belt

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    Yeah I couldn't believe Vettel at the start. To be honest he probably cost himself a win if not a guaranteed podium on the very first corner. He was so worried about his teammate that he forced Kimi back several spots, negating Vettel's chances of having a stop-gap for what ended up transpiring.
     
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  4. Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    Vettel more than Max. Max is unlikely to contend for the overall championship.

    I didn't think Mercedes had a poor strategy. Ferrari's poor strategy was leaving Vettel out instead of covering immediately and then destroying Kimi's race to try to get Vettel back into it. We'll never know how Red Bull were going to go with a 2 stop without a safety car vs the 1 stop of Mercedes and Ferrari though.

    Overlooked as well in Danny Ric's driving is Red Bull as a team. They pulled off a stack pit stop twice in that race. Major points there in my view.
     
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  5. Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    I saw the start and immediately thought "OMG, it's Singapore all over again!"
     
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  6. Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    Yeah, as I said in previous posts, Ferrari sold Kimi down the river IMO when Vettel came out behind Bottas. Slowing him right down to let Vettel attack. I could be way off the mark here, but that's what it felt like. Glad in the end he lucked out a bit and ended up on the podium.

    Can't do much about quali and dirty air. The haves are always going to have a advantage over the have nots. But it's always fun to see someone total unexpected have a good run.

    In my simplistic view, to try to get rid of the dirty air problem is to standardise aero packages and that's going to take away from F1 and different ideas etc so yeah, I think we're all gonna be SOL with that.
     
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    NHRA legend Don "The Snake" Prudhomme is entering the Mexican 1000 at the age of 77. His last attempt was in 1968 when he filled in for Steve McQueen and didn't make it 100 miles before blowing the engine.
    "It's about time he got back out there," said longtime NHRA rival "Big Daddy" Don Garlits, who recently turned 86. "He's too young to be parked."
    http://autoweek.com/article/other-m...homme-heading-back-baja-after-50-year-absence
     
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  8. ralphc1 Gold Belt

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    I liked it when some of the circle tracks had a dash for cash race where the top ten qualifiers start in inverted order in a 10 or 20 lap race. Lots of excitement when the fast cars start in the back. Some drivers would try to qualify lower in the top ten to start farther forward in the dash race but still have a good starting position for the main race. If the starting positions are determined by heat races, it isn't always a bad thing because they will start in the front row of a heat race at almost any position in the top ten.

    I've also seen some sanctioning bodies where the top ten draw for starting position so the fastest qualifier might start anywhere in the top ten.
     
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  9. Foppa21 Brown Belt

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    I've never been a fan of reverse grid type races. There has to be a reward for going the fastest. In that respect, grid penalties for engine/gearbox changes did add a bit of intrigue.
     
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  10. ralphc1 Gold Belt

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    100% chance of rain for the Indy race Sunday at Barber Motorsports Park in Alabama. Could be interesting.
     
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    Would have been cool to see Bourdais try and stay out there with a few laps left on the slicks.
     
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  12. ralphc1 Gold Belt

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    The strategy was interesting. The rain tires don't help Indy or Formula One cars much because of the ground effects aerodynamics that make visibility a much bigger problem. When you can't see, you can't drive. They like to say they run in the rain but it really is difficult to do.
     
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