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I thought I made this perfectly clear, maybe you just didn't comprehend....On a zero-carb diet(5g or less a day), a fully "keto-adapted" body will show no ketones in urine. Why? Because the ketones are burned as fast as they are produced, plain and simple. That's all there is too it. In the first 2-3 weeks or so while the body is still adapting to zero-carb, there will be a very high reading of ketones in the urine. When the body is completely adapted to using ketones efficiently, there will be NO ketones in urine. This is to answer Jodka's question too....you just weren't fully adapted yet. Two weeks is the normal amount of time but it may even take up to 3-4 weeks with some people.
If you don't believe me Kabuki then take the challenge and do it yourself. That is the only way we can solve this little debate, right?. Or are you just going to believe what some internet article says about the early stages of ketosis and think it lasts forever? I think you can do it, it's not so bad, just make sure it's all meat and fat. When you read the keto-stick afterwards you may realize that this guy might actually know what he's talking about.
Don't give me that old "try it" crap. That's the ever-present cop-out of people who have no substance behind their theories.
And no, it's not what I've read about the early stages of the body being ketogenic, it's the very nature of being ketogenic in the first-place, and how to tell at ANY time the body is in the ketogenic state.
It's a very basic thing, that you're saying is false, with no proof and no basis other than "well I did, so you should do it."
As I have said multiple times, I don't agree w/ everything that solk says. However, dismissing what he's saying simply because it doesn't go with what you've read is plain wrong. In fact, much of what he's saying is in direct opposition to the things you've read (and no, I'm not talking about his claim about fiber or insulin, I'm talking about the fact that he says he shows no nutrient defiencies and claims to feel better than before). Unless you honeslty believe he's lying, this should make you excited about the possibilities, not condemn what he's saying as useless and false. And if you do think he's lying, I'd advise you to go back and check out how this whole thing started. Combined with the fact that solk has been a contributor to this board and had over 1000 posts before this even came up makes me alot less likely to believe he just decided to say he's been doing this for 4 years, is in good health (his wifes a fucking doc), he doesnt test positive on ketone strips, etc.
I read this thread since the beginning. And for the umpteenth time it's not about dimissing what he's saying because it "doesn't agree with what I'm reading." It's dismissing it because most of the stuff he says is equivalent to trying to convince someone that 2 + 2 = 8.
When a person's theories go against common knowledge you can learn in any first year class regarding human biology or physiology, again the burden of substantial proof is on them, not on science to re-prove what is already known.
And the reason I'm so interested in this, is that he claims it pretty much eliminates the need for insulin and glucagon, two very, very powerful hormones (I don't think this can be disputed as ketones don't need insulin). Again, the very basis of life is to maintain homeostasis, making your body just as efficient, yet simpler would be a positive thing, IMO.
For the last time you would absolutely positively die without insulin in the body doing what it's supposed to do.