Terrorist Attacks by Muslims Receive 357% More Media Coverage

[Madmick]

BTW, anybody dumb enough to believe that a "study" from the "Investigative Fund" is legitimate investigation, and not veiled liberal politicking, needs to read The Nation for a few issues.

 

[dontsnitch]

I understand discounting 9/11 since its a serious outlier but at the same time don't you think that uniquely traumatic event has almost everything to do with our higher sensitivity to Islamist terror attacks? Hypothetically let's say you have 500 terror attacks by left wing terror groups over ten years which in total kill 1,000 and where no single attack killed more than three people but during the same time frame there are two right wing terror attacks which combined also kill 1,000 people. Don't you think its only natural that the latter would get more media coverage and that the nation would be more sensitive to right wing terror attacks as a result because the individual attacks are more newsworthy and traumatic?

I don't think Islam fits neatly within the right or left wing. Sure they have some very socially conservative beliefs but they also believe in economic social justice which is traditionally a left wing idea.

Christian terrorism is classified as right wing because the religion is often just used as an identity marker for right wing groups. If a Catholic terror group which supports labor rights and anti-poverty measures committed a terrorist attack it wouldn't make sense to classify it as right wing

What a fucking moronic thing to say. Did you have an aneurysm or something?

Can't a man make a cheeky comment in the wr?

I remember the splc arguing Mateen was a right wing terrorist. Clearly the left has a soft spot for Islam, I take these things with a grain of salt.

 

[GetTheseHands]

Can't a man make a cheeky comment in the wr?

I remember the splc arguing Mateen was a right wing terrorist. Clearly the left has a soft spot for Islam, I take these things with a grain of salt.

The Orlando shooter was a democrat raised in a Democrat household but according to the communist coalition itt, he's a right wing terrorist.

 

[luckyshot]

Well, if all of the un-sensationalized statistics honestly portraying Muslim terrorism and violence wasn't even worse than "distorted" 15x coverage, then I'd be upset, or find cause for outrage. From the abstract:

Interesting theory. I think it has more to do with their astonishing rates of violence, inhumane crimes, abuse of women, and massively disproportional commitment to terrorism that result in disproportional media coverage of it. I'd say that's parallel, and appropriate.

Thanks useless UofA professors, but your Ph.D. ilk have proven embarrassingly inferior to the acting generals in terms of issuing guidelines and ideas pertaining to my security. One might even get the idea they actually care about me, and not about what I believe.

Hey, it’s our friendly immoderate moderator with his unsubstantiated opinions and verbal attacks on people he doesn’t know! Great!

 

[dontsnitch]

The Orlando shooter was a democrat raised in a Democrat household but according to the communist coalition itt, he's a right wing terrorist.

Iirc the splc had some blm idiots on their list as right wing terrorist...

 

[Trotsky]

LOL, it doesn't even remotely come close to "Islamic Terrorism" unless you limit it to our domestic borders, and you let organizations like the SLPC make the charts where they categorize Nawaz as a "right-wing" terrorist.

Well, the American populace isn't that provincial in how they view the world, anymore. All this talk of refugees "woke" them. Ain't life a bitch.

The study was limited to United States incidents, which tend to be limited to within our borders. Also, you didn't specific was "it" is within your argument.

As far as this study's methodology, you're welcome to vet it and point out your problems with its SJW libtarded classifications so as to explain why Islamic terrorism receives greater publicity and right-wing terrorism lesser. But preempting the findings of this study or others by saying, "I bet the source sucks"? My, my Mickey, you grow more orange by the hour.

 

[Trotsky]

Iirc the splc had some blm idiots on their list as right wing terrorist...

Source?

Aligning yourself with idiot trolls like Those Hands is a slippery slope, friend.

 

[dontsnitch]

Source?

Aligning yourself with idiot trolls like Those Hands is a slippery slope, friend.

I'm not aligning with him just because I used his post as a spring board, don't do that.

I'll vet my claim and get back to you.

 

[luckyshot]

So after 9/11 and before San Bernardino and Orlando....

Fuck outta here with these cherrypicked ass numbers

The study is talking about MEDIA COVERAGE. So, even in “down years” (after 9/11 and before San Benardino and Orlando) Islamic terrorism received 357% more coverage.

If 9/11 and Orlando were included, it would be 11,000,000,000,000% more coverage.

Can't a man make a cheeky comment in the wr?

I remember the splc arguing Mateen was a right wing terrorist. Clearly the left has a soft spot for Islam, I take these things with a grain of salt.

1. According to the right, the msm is liberal.
2. The media reports Islamic violence in greater depth than other violence.
THEREFORE:
3. Liberals have a soft spot for Islam.

Can’t argue with that logic...

 

[bushman505]

That actually should yield the exact opposite result on a per-incident basis. It makes no sense that a greater amount of something would make individual incidents more noteworthy.



You're proving the OP's point.

It's been known for a long, long time that domestic right-wing terrorism outpaces left-wing and comes close to Islamic terrorism. And that's beside the point that Islamic terrorists are right-wing terrorists: Islamists are ultra-conservative fundamentalists.

In terms of incidents, they're unsurprisngly most common

Yet it's the least prosecuted.

I’m not here to prove or disprove a point. Just pointing out that it seems fairly obvious why certain crimes are reported more than others, more dramatic, more extreme, higher body counts will equal more reporting.

I’m guessing this article is trying to say that everything is racist against the muslims though.

 

[GetTheseHands]

The study is talking about MEDIA COVERAGE. So, even in “down years” (after 9/11 and before San Benardino and Orlando) Islamic terrorism received 357% more coverage.

If 9/11 and Orlando were included, it would be 11,000,000,000,000% more coverage.

The post you responded to was about death tolls. Stay on topic

 

[bushman505]

It kinda does.

The media focuses on terrorist attacks because they sell while ignoring our violence because no one cares.

Vast majority of muslim violence is in muslim countries, don't know why we should really care at all.

I don’t think nobody cares, I just have a suspicion that many of these “right wing” crimes aren’t mass murders so they don’t get the same attention as mass murders/actual terrorist attacks. They are trying to show that the reporting is higher which is is for Islamic crimes but that’s because more people end up dead, like I said they couldn’t add 9/11 because they would just be too obvious.

 

[bushman505]

there are links to the research from the university of alabama within the articles.

i think all "wings" have their fringe extremes. no?

Absolutely.

 

[Trotsky]

I’m not here to prove or disprove a point. Just pointing out that it seems fairly obvious why certain crimes are reported more than others, more dramatic, more extreme, higher body counts will equal more reporting.

I’m guessing this article is trying to say that everything is racist against the muslims though.

There are a lot of consideration, and it was a research study, not just an article.

I don't think purposeful racism is at issue. It's more likely to me that terrorism conducted by members of an out-group or persons perceived as foreigners is scarier, which equals higher ratings. It's a form of racism, sure, but not in the way you're implying.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Absolutely.

so why would neo nazis not be found within the right wing extremes?

the stated/claimed goals of most on the left, is to bring people closer to equality, or in the extremes, to make them equal in every way. fascists and nazis on the other hand, think a stratified society is good, or even necessary. the opposite of equality.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I don't think Islam fits neatly within the right or left wing. Sure they have some very socially conservative beliefs but they also believe in economic social justice which is traditionally a left wing idea.

Christian terrorism is classified as right wing because the religion is often just used as an identity marker for right wing groups. If a Catholic terror group which supports labor rights and anti-poverty measures committed a terrorist attack it wouldn't make sense to classify it as right wing

I don’t think anything fits neatly within the left or right wing.

But we’re not talking about Islam, we’re talking about Islamist terrorism, which tends to be more concerned with tribalism, Islamic supremacy, and an opposition to “immoral secularism.” Most contemporary Islamist terrorists don’t fight for economic social justice, certainly not for socialism or what we would consider “leftist” social justice.

And your hypothetical catholic terrorists would be placed into the Right Wing grouping based on the parameters in the linked study. Just as it wouldn’t differentiate between say a PLO (socialist) terror attack and a Muslim Brotherhood (Qutbist) terror attack within the “Islamist” category. Which is partly why I responded the way I did.

 

[dontsnitch]

Source?

Aligning yourself with idiot trolls like Those Hands is a slippery slope, friend.

They have the two famous blm dudes on the right wing terror list.

https://www.splcenter.org/20151101/terror-right

They apparently removed Mateen last week.

 

[bushman505]

There are a lot of consideration, and it was a research study, not just an article.

I don't think purposeful racism is at issue. It's more likely to me that terrorism conducted by members of an out-group or persons perceived as foreigners is scarier, which equals higher ratings. It's a form of racism, sure, but not in the way you're implying.

Well I guess I just don’t believe that every “research” study includes all the details or is free from bias, that’s my only point. I’m not condoning or trying to excuse any form of violence or terrorism, this just seems like slanted liberals media to me.

 

[bushman505]

so why would neo nazis not be found within the right wing extremes?

the stated/claimed goals of most on the left, is to bring people closer to equality, or in the extremes, to make them equal in every way. fascists and nazis on the other hand, think a stratified society is good, or even necessary. the opposite of equality.

I don’t think I’d limit fascism to the right wing, but that’s an entirely different discussion.

 

[dontsnitch]

The study is talking about MEDIA COVERAGE. So, even in “down years” (after 9/11 and before San Benardino and Orlando) Islamic terrorism received 357% more coverage.

If 9/11 and Orlando were included, it would be 11,000,000,000,000% more coverage.



1. According to the right, the msm is liberal.
2. The media reports Islamic violence in greater depth than other violence.
THEREFORE:
3. Liberals have a soft spot for Islam.

Can’t argue with that logic...

Oh, you think your study somehow negates the media's bias. That's adorable.

Here is a question, when a story is reported on more than another, does that mean it's always reported evenly and fairly? Mateen is a perfect example, he wasn't an Islamic terrorist, he was a gay homophobe like the media reported.