Terrorist Attack in Egypt : 28 Coptic Christians killed so far, 22 wounded

[in the]

Who's going to make this year's Ramadan Bombathon thread?

Don't forget to include this in the OP:

List of Islamic Terror:
Last 30 Days

 

[HomerThompson]

It's only going to get worse.

Summer season is coming on. I remember when I was a kid and that meant blockbuster films. I miss that.

It still does. I'm about to go see Baywatch.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It still does. I'm about to go see Baywatch.

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[ObsoleteSoul]

Probably happened because those Christians just didn't show enough love and understanding. Horrible evil Christians.

 

[HomerThompson]

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[KONE]

Who's going to make this year's Ramadan Bombathon thread?

Don't forget to include this in the OP:

List of Islamic Terror:
Last 30 Days

2017.05.24 Indonesia Jakarta 3 10 Two suicide bombers detonate outside a bus terminal, killing three guards.

It's OK though, they're moderate relative to other Muslim countries so that absolves Islam of being violent... or something

 

[44nutman]

Wut about the mean people on Twitter?

Seriously, though. What will it take? I thought the sight of dead 8 year olds with screws stuck in their skull would have stirred up a reaction against Islam. But my Facebook feed is still full of people complaining about Islamaphobic tweets and telling everyone to vote Labour Party.

Get more White males to become Muslims and you will get the reaction you are looking for

 

[Devout Pessimist]

It could be argued that today's progressives/liberals are ironically closer to the true Christian teaching than conservatives who preach Christianity, but don't seem to live up to it n with a reason.

Like progressivism, Christianity is a self defeating ideology. You're constantly supposed to go against your best interest in order to serve some "higher" or "greater" good.

I disagree. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is very supportive of self-defense and encourages people of strength to protect the weak.

I will post this again:

Legitimate defense

2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's. 66

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

 

[MicroBrew]

This attack is a continuation of the long running genocide and pogrom against indigenous Egyptian culture by Arab supremacy.

 

[MicroBrew]

Suffering of Christians all across Middle East is already at the scale of genocide, with many massacres barely being reported in western media. May they rest in peace.

And our establishment , including Trump, is supporting the main source responsible for the genocide.

 

[abgmma]

An ISIS suicide bomber detonated an explosive vest in an attack on a Lebanese army post in the north of the country on Friday, killing himself and lightly injuring several soldiers, security sources said.

Another failed attack by Isis lol

 

[Fisticuffa]

This attack is a continuation of the long running genocide and pogrom against indigenous Egyptian culture by Arab supremacy.

Dumbass.

"Indigenous" Egyptian culture is pagan.

Christianity was forcibly imposed on Egypt after Julian's death.

Temples were smashed, pagans were persecuted through official legislation under the likes of Justinian and Egypt was Christianized by force along with the rest of the Roman empire.

Muslims are just giving Christians a taste of their own medicine, somewhere Hypatia may be smiling.

 

[MicroBrew]

Dumbass.

"Indigenous" Egyptian culture is pagan.

Christianity was forcibly imposed on Egypt after Julian's death.

Temples were smashed, pagans were persecuted through official legislation under the likes of Justinian and Egypt was Christianized by force along with the rest of the Roman empire.

Muslims are just giving Christians a taste of their own medicine, somewhere Hypatia may be smiling.

Do Native Americans stop being Native Americans if they are Christian? Are Korean Christians no longer Korean?

The mother tongue of the Copts, which is all but relegated to liturgical use, is a direct descendant of Ancient Egyptian. Coptic is the sole descendant of Ancient Egyptian. So even while the Copts adopted Christianity, culturally they still retain a large portion of their native roots.

Genetically the Muslims are more or less similar to the Copts but the Muslims identify with Arabic , and as such are pushing Arab religion and culture .

 

[grimballer]

I disagree. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is very supportive of self-defense and encourages people of strength to protect the weak.

I will post this again:

Legitimate defense

2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's. 66

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

Let's go straight to the source...

Are those directs quotes from the bible (where Christians are supposed to get their ideology) or it's the Vaticans on opinion on the matter without biblical reference?

 

[ReAnimator Reagan]

http://www.theindependentbd.com/post/96437

"At least 23 people have been killed and 25 wounded after gunmen opened fire on a bus carrying Coptic Christians in central Egypt, state media report.

The incident occurred in Minya province, about 220km (140 miles) south of the capital Cairo, as the bus headed to the Monastery of St Samuel.

There have been a number of attacks on Copts in recent months claimed by Islamic State (IS) militants.

Two suicide bombings targeting churches on 9 April left 46 people dead.

The attacks prompted President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi to declare a nationwide state of emergency and promise to do whatever was necessary to confront jihadists."

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The religion of peace is at it again, ladies and gentlemen.

Watch this leftists and learn. Jews and Christians are a HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE step above atheists according to Islam.

So even while the Copts adopted Christianity.

But it is a whole different moral and value system. Why do you think you don't see Christians suicide bombing muslims??? Other than the muslims having a patent on it.

 

[grimballer]

Do Native Americans stop being Native Americans if they are Christian? Are Korean Christians no longer Korean?

The mother tongue of the Copts, which is all but relegated to liturgical use, is a direct descendant of Ancient Egyptian. Coptic is the sole descendant of Ancient Egyptian. So even while the Copts adopted Christianity, culturally they still retain a large portion of their native roots.

Genetically the Muslims are more or less similar to the Copts but the Muslims identify with Arabic , and as such are pushing Arab religion and culture .

But Persians n Indians didn't adopt Arabic culture/language when they accepted Islam, while entire Latin America speaks languages of their conquerors...

It's probably correlated with the amount of intermixing Between different group

 

[Fisticuffa]

Do Native Americans stop being Native Americans if they are Christian? Are Korean Christians no longer Korean?

The mother tongue of the Copts, which is all but relegated to liturgical use, is a direct descendant of Ancient Egyptian. Coptic is the sole descendant of Ancient Egyptian. So even while the Copts adopted Christianity, culturally they still retain a large portion of their native roots.

Genetically the Muslims are more or less similar to the Copts but the Muslims identify with Arabic , and as such are pushing Arab religion and culture .

What are Christians pushing then?

Is Christianity an Egyptian religion?

No.

So if Muslims are pushing an "Arab religion" then Copts are pushing another Abrahamic semitic religion that has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, thanks for proving my point.

Just as Islam was forced on Christian Egypt, so Christianity was forced on ancient Egypt. There are no "native Egyptians" left going by your own harebrained ideas. If its genetics then both Muslims and Christian Egyptians are equally Egyptian. If its identification by religion, then both are pushing foreign cults which destroyed ancient Egypt.

Christians are just salty because what they did/do to pagans, Muslims do to them.

 

[dontsnitch]

Let's go straight to the source...

Are those directs quotes from the bible (where Christians are supposed to get their ideology) or it's the Vaticans on opinion on the matter without biblical reference?

What's your objection?

 

[grimballer]

What's your objection?

No objections, just comparing actual Christian Ideology from the text vs the interpretation by different denominations

 

[dontsnitch]

No objections, just comparing actual Christian Ideology from the text vs the interpretation by different denominations

Yeah, I got that part, I share some of those concerns as well. I was just wondering if you were objecting to something specific in the tenets of Catholicism that you don't believe jive with the Bible.