teachers have to get second job in oklahoma

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  1. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    https://boingboing.net/2018/02/07/this-is-not-ok.html
    "In 1992, Oklahoma passed a ballot initiative saying that the state could only raise taxes with a three quarters majority in the state assembly, creating a one-way ratchet where every tax cut becomes effectively permanent, including the sweetheart deals cut for frackers and the deep cuts to taxes on the wealthiest residents of the state.

    As a result, the state is going broke. Teachers haven't gotten a raise in 10 years and the only way they can afford to accept the pay -- third-worst in the nation -- is by negotiating a four-day school week in 90 districts, freeing teachers up to take jobs at Walmart on Mondays to make ends meet."
    who needs education anyway?
     
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  2. uncommon

    uncommon Brown Belt

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    The article doesnt show how the 4 day school week impacts student performance.

    if 5 day is superior why not make it 7?
     
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    Lowmanproblems Brown Belt

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    More of a concern for me is how does a 4 day week effect parent that have to provide child care if they work mon-fri. Oklahoma needs to fix this shit it's pretty pathetic.
     
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    PolishHeadlock Putin Belt Platinum Member

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    Lol I'm sure you're getting some real quality educators regardless of pay
     
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    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    graduation rate is higher than national average 84.8/81.4

    but maybe its easier to graduate in oklahoma?
     
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    Phr3121 Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm in Oklahoma. I wouldn't say broke but with issues to be resolved. It ranks 38th in per capita income. Bottom 5 are: Kentucky, Alabama, West Virginia, Arkansas, and Mississippi. The teacher issue is definitely a problem. Not a day goes by where this issue is not on the front cover of the newspaper or the news. Not really sure of how things got this bad. Lot of children going to private school. In the mean time folks in the state Congress have given themselves a raise. There was a time when oil put Oklahoma at the top of the list.

    The part about, "drunk drivers go free because there is no one available to process their tickets, and the prison system is on the verge of collapse." is bullshit. There is still a lot of 'oil' money (fortunes) in these parts, just not in state government's hands.
     
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    if 4 days is superior why not make it 1?
     
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  11. Sohei

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    Public education is for Marxist cucks!!!!

    Go to a real private school or learn zhit online!!!

    Someone on Sherdog told me those who can do, those who cant teach!!!!
     
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    tehend West Coast Distributor Of Pain

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    They can be prostitutes and teach their students about great sex. Their parents can pay for it. Lets face it, who better than your teacher? Dont they get a lot of oil revenue in Sooner world?
     
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    LogicalInsanity Gold Belt

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    Terrible..

    I have done personal taxes for teachers ...and yea , the conventional wisdom is accurate. They make shit.

    Often underpaid and often underappreciated ...

    Teachers are one of the many unsung heroes
     
  15. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    it says it is inconclusive
    later in the article
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    In Montana, where more than 100 schools are on a four-day week, a study found that the change may not work in the long term.

    Tim Tharp, superintendent of Sunburst School District in Sunburst, Montana, conducted research for his doctoral dissertation at the University of Montana and found that student performance holds steady or shows an initial improvement for the first few years when schools switch to a four-day week. After that, however, performance plummets.

    Tharp found that in 2011, standardized test scores were slightly below state averages — not uncommon for small, rural and especially reservation schools in the state. But they dipped alarmingly in 2012 and again in 2013, falling farther away from state averages."
    thats besides the cost of extra childcare on parents , and loss of wages for school bus drivers and school food workers.
     
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    Teachers in Russia make like $150 a month and their students outperform ours in math.

    Time to drastically reduce teacher salaries, IMO.
     
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    tehend West Coast Distributor Of Pain

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    Does it say why shit plummeted?
     
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    it was your article i quoted, i assumed you read it
     
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    tehend West Coast Distributor Of Pain

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    I didn't click the the guys research link.
     
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    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    then do so if you want to know
     
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