Do some Bjj people even ever consider like a few of the actually educated people have pointed out.. that the fact you think you’ll get injured becomes self fulfilling prophecy. Or that if you stopped being snobby about what types of takedowns you think you “should” learn that of are “technical” English (eye roll).. you’d be surprised at how safe you can keep it.
The problem outside the
meta stuff breaks down into 3 parts
Snobbery
The amount of times I’ve seen Bjj people say the wrestler win in Bjj or mma, or why they can’t be taken down or “rag doll” Bjj people because of “grit” “toughness” “athleticism” VASTLY outnumbers the people that acknowledge the fact, that it’s also because that wrestler is not only a more experienced grappler than you but more technical in that aspect than you
But because wrestling is seen by a giant chunk of the Bjj community as less technical, or too “athleticism based” or not a “true martial art” but something jocks do (double eye roll). When learning wrestling or explaining why they don’t.. there’s an inherent bias and hesitation to actually learn it as a technical art.
Ignorance of multiple types
There’s the type of ignorance mentioned above. Then there’s the simple fact that a lot of black belts do not know takedowns on a technical enough level to teach them.. or are/would be vastly inferior to many middle school coaches who are blue or purple belts in wrestling themselves.. but still better at teaching wrestling safely than the majority of Bjj black belts.. and I’m not using hyperbole.
In fact.. there are a gigantic chunk of
high school wrestling coaches, who did not wrestle in college.. that I’d pick to safely teach wrestling to Bjj people.. over Damien Maia
Pause here, now before anyone has a hissy fit because they think I insulted Maia.. no I didn’t. Re-read it. I didn’t Danaher you. Don’t be obtuse, I’m not dissing Maia, disregard if you didn’t need my disclaimer.
Do not only do the lower belts or hobbyists in general have a perception. But you have black belts teaching shit like “shoulder pressure” on a Russian tie
Lack of humility
Now I’m aware that whenever this is mentioned or actually called out.. people say this never happens.. but this is based on personal experience, trusted friends, and paying attention on the inter webs.
But not every Bjj player is a middle aged to old “hobbyist” either now are they. And let’s be honest, many “hobbyists” only become a “hobbyist” (or say so) when they lose or “get hurt”. I’ve seen vastly more frustration and anger from Bjj and mma players who can takedown or get “rag dolled” by somone smaller than when the occasional wrestler does just muscle through shit or bullies hobbyists.
I am not talking about the latter case. In that instance the enforcer/higher belts do their thing and the wrestler adjusts or quits. I’m talking about when people get angry because they lose to someone they think they shouldn’t, and they aren’t humble enough to be a white belt agai
I won’t go on anymore and I’ve said a bunch. But the simple fact is, the above 3 factors play into Bjj people not learning takedowns as much as any other reasons given
