International Syria Conflict: Bombs away boys. (Israel openly admits to bombing Iranian bases in Syria)

[TheGreatA]

So, with the dust settled, it looks like another completely useless strike by the US. This attack achieved absolutely 0 outside of wiping out civil infrastructure that was allegedly involved in an alleged attack. Probably only carried out because Trump painted himself into a corner on twitter.

(If they knew these buildings were involved in the production of chemical weapons why not just demand an OPCW inspection? Because the inspectors were/are already going there..)

I greatly prefer these useless strikes to the useful ones.

They made a point of Trump being a bad boy who is not to be messed around with, without any civilians getting killed seemingly. Good. Got that out of the system now.

You brought up a good point there, though. It feels like Trump inadvertently did Assad a favour by destroying the evidence of chemical weapons production. So now the mystery of whether he had them or not, can never be truly solved.

 

[Armbars]

and so begins the back N forth

 

[VivaRevolution]

and so begins the back N forth

Lol

The conspiracy grows. Now it is animal assad, and animal Putin huh?

 

[whougonnacall]

You seemed to be saying that Assad is an ally of ISIS because he buys oil from them...... his own oil and oil that he needs to run his country... something he wouldn't need to do if they hadn't taken over all of the oil fields.... and something they no longer do because Russia came in and killed them all.

Well i guess that makes being their biggest source of income ok then? lol (iran and russia have oil you know )

Thats before we talk the local peace deals in place for years so they both fought only rebels ,the literal tonnes of arms and ammo they got from his useless ground forces , the fact many of their members were trained in terrorism by his intel services to fight u.s in iraq , the propagana boon his terror strategy was for their formation etc



And lol at russia killing them all russias been a bit part player vs isis

 

[whougonnacall]

1. Syria's not your neighbour.
2. Given how America solves problems, those kids'd be safer if you let them be strangled than if you intervened on their behalf.
"Derp, better blow up those kids before that lunatic can strangle them!!"

1)not a neighbour in real terms no but we can see whats happeningnand are strongbenough to stop it

2)b.s there are 0 negatives to blowing up a madmans chem weapons before he can use them again
The week leading up to strikes the skys were cleared of hos airforce saving countless lives vs barrelbombs too.....wheres the -ve in that?

 

[whougonnacall]

Lol, really? With a straight face, you can suggest Syria is our neighbor?

Jeez man way to take a metaphor literaly!!! If it makes it easier for you then alter it to walking down a neighbourhood you dont live in and u see a dwarf try to strangle toddlers in his front yard

Do you respect his fence + property boundaries and do nothing or save the toddlers lives?

 

[MiroHa]

Jeez man way to take a metaphor literaly!!! If it makes it easier for you then alter it to walking down a neighbourhood you dont live in and u see a dwarf try to strangle toddlers in his front yard

Do you respect his fence + property boundaries and do nothing or save the toddlers lives?

Bad comparison. More like someone tells you that dwarf strangles toddlers and you set his house on fire based on that information.

 

[Armbars]

just get out and leave them

 

[TheTimeIsNotNow]

just get out and leave them

Good to see the Syrian people are embracing freedom

 

[Last Samurai]

and so begins the back N forth

so if they find no evidence then it must be because the Russians tampered with the site

how convenient...

 

[Armbars]

 

[jamesmiller14]

1)not a neighbour in real terms no but we can see whats happeningnand are strongbenough to stop it

2)b.s there are 0 negatives to blowing up a madmans chem weapons before he can use them again
The week leading up to strikes the skys were cleared of hos airforce saving countless lives vs barrelbombs too.....wheres the -ve in that?

The only thing that would make him a Madman is if he truly perpetrated a chemical attack on his own citizens in the face of guaranteed consequence... when the man already has the war one.

When you don't really have a side that you're rooting for, and you just take a couple of steps back to look at it... the rhetoric cools down quite a bit.

But don't let that stop anyone from living and dying by the same sword. Go for it. You're all going to lose.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

1)not a neighbour in real terms no but we can see whats happeningnand are strongbenough to stop it

2)b.s there are 0 negatives to blowing up a madmans chem weapons before he can use them again
The week leading up to strikes the skys were cleared of hos airforce saving countless lives vs barrelbombs too.....wheres the -ve in that?

Lol.
1. Strong enough to stop it? Perhaps. But it isn't really the strength of the United States that I'm questioning, it's the competence. I don't think there's evidence of any.

2. That's not true, and even if it were, there's not really any positives either. The States is claiming that they've eliminated Assad's ability to use sarin gas on his people (where have we heard that before?) but not his ability to use deliver chlorine gas.

So.... you acted liked arrogant, law-breaking, war-mongering thugs, and the grand sum of your achievement (to further extend your original analogy) was to force your neighbour to punch his kids to death instead of strangling them - because, while you don't mind watching kids being murdered, you're very particular about the way you'd prefer them to be murdered.

To be honest, I guess your real achievement is further proving to the world that the West has no respect for even the laws it helped to enshrine.
You undermine the rule of law because you'd rather see people being blown up, shot and starved than gassed, and then you still somehow try and make it sound like "doing the right thing" has any bearing whatsoever on your nation's choice of foreign interventions.

 

[Clippy]

Shit got real

 

[cincymma79]

war
wôr/
noun
noun: war; plural noun: wars

1. 1.
   a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.
   "Japan declared war on Germany"
   synonyms: conflict, warfare, combat, fighting, (military) action, bloodshed, struggle; More
   
   
   antonyms: peace
   • a particular armed conflict.
     "after the war, they immigrated to America"
   • a state of competition, conflict, or hostility between different people or groups.
     "she was at war with her parents"
   • a sustained effort to deal with or end a particular unpleasant or undesirable situation or condition.
     "the authorities are waging war against all forms of smuggling"
     synonyms: campaign, crusade, battle, fight, struggle, movement, drive
     "the war against drugs"

verb
verb: war; 3rd person present: wars; past tense: warred; past participle: warred; gerund or present participle: warring

1. 1.
   engage in a war.
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   synonyms: fight (against), battle (against), combat (against), wage war against, take up arms against; More

Wrong
1 state of being incorrect or not knowing what you’re talking about

2 googling a definition from Webster and not grasping reality at all

 

[VivaRevolution]

so if they find no evidence then it must be because the Russians tampered with the site

how convenient...

 

[whougonnacall]

Lol.
1. Strong enough to stop it? Perhaps. But it isn't really the strength of the United States that I'm questioning, it's the competence. I don't think there's evidence of any.

2. That's not true, and even if it were, there's not really any positives either. The States is claiming that they've eliminated Assad's ability to use sarin gas on his people (where have we heard that before?) but not his ability to use deliver chlorine gas.

So.... you acted liked arrogant, law-breaking, war-mongering thugs, and the grand sum of your achievement (to further extend your original analogy) was to force your neighbour to punch his kids to death instead of strangling them - because, while you don't mind watching kids being murdered, you're very particular about the way you'd prefer them to be murdered.

To be honest, I guess your real achievement is further proving to the world that the West has no respect for even the laws it helped to enshrine.
You undermine the rule of law because you'd rather see people being blown up, shot and starved than gassed, and then you still somehow try and make it sound like "doing the right thing" has any bearing whatsoever on your nation's choice of foreign interventions.

1) id competence wise they acted in the right here,just a pity that other war crimes there are allowed instead

2)you are contradicting yourself there
If you agree that stopping these things is the right thing to do then some action is better than complete inaction

 

[DespicablePeep]

Then as you well know labelling everyome who resists assad a terrorist is not just wrong but has dangerous implications for freedom everywhere

Someone that is foreigner to the country and is funded by another regime is a terrorist. You are just trolling at this point.

They are using chemical weapons
So they are stopping that
No war

This was the third time the west claimed Chemical use by Assad, they bombed the other time as far as I recall. The posturing against Russia and Syria government could lead to a direct war, Assad is close to stomping the terrorists/rebels that is far the best outcome for civilians in Syria, they deserve some peace after what the West did to the Arab Spring.

 

[whougonnacall]

The only thing that would make him a Madman is if he truly perpetrated a chemical attack on his own citizens in the face of guaranteed consequence... when the man already has the war one.

When you don't really have a side that you're rooting for, and you just take a couple of steps back to look at it... the rhetoric cools down quite a bit.

But don't let that stop anyone from living and dying by the same sword. Go for it. You're all going to lose.

What consequences ? Like the last 2 times next to nothing was the consequence
A possibly hugely costly in lives prize delivered for next to no cost isnt madness its a smart move

 

[whougonnacall]

Bad comparison. More like someone tells you that dwarf strangles toddlers and you set his house on fire based on that information.

More like you can see it and hes killed them twice before