Supplements are the biggest scam, anyone can get rich they dont work either

You don't think taking vitamin a, c, e has benefits to the body. Taking in iron and other things.

Of course it benefits your body. All the vitamins do. Vitamin c is proven to work. It's been around basically forever.

It's like fish oil and apple cider vinegar. Vitamin c is beneficial to take.
I'm referring to actual research done, showing an effect.
 
I have used every supplement under the sun (both legal and "performance enhancing") and the only things that you can buy over the counter than work reasonable well are:

Creatine Monohydrate
Whey Protein (for sheer convenience - whole foods are always better as a protein source)
Ephedrine (and the legality of this varies across jurisdictions)

Back in the day, you could purchase pro-hormones from places like GNC and Bodybuilding.com, and they absolutely do work, but at an enormous risk to your health. I remember being able to buy Superdrol for $20 a bottle online, and that thing will make you shit out your liver if you use it for longer than 6 weeks. It did however pack on a ridiculous amount of muscle in a very short period of time - on a mg per mg basis, it is more powerful than Anadrol.
 
That's not how proper supplementation works.

You don't use it in place of you use the supplements as an addition to a healthy diet.

Seriously?

I mean really?

You had to try and act smart over this?

Lol.

Bro. We all know what they are for, and we know what they are really for.

Only a small percentage of people are actually using them to supplement something - like someone trying to gain weight but they don't like to eat, so they eat a hard gainer. Our someone who is vegan looking for a plant based protein powder.

99.99999% of the time it's a young kid looking for a test booster not realizing he doesn't need it, some sort of pre-workout stimulant, or of course the almighty protein powder kids are brainwashed into thinking they need.

This^ is what we are talking about.

People don't realize that they can get all of this from food.

This is one of rich pianas favorite subjects.

I'm sure you know more about nutrition and body building than he does.

Go take your know it all bullshit somewhere else.
 
Do other countries better regulate their supplement industries ie Canada/UK/AUS
 
I have used every supplement under the sun (both legal and "performance enhancing") and the only things that you can buy over the counter than work reasonable well are:

Creatine Monohydrate
Whey Protein (for sheer convenience - whole foods are always better as a protein source)
Ephedrine (and the legality of this varies across jurisdictions)

Back in the day, you could purchase pro-hormones from places like GNC and Bodybuilding.com, and they absolutely do work, but at an enormous risk to your health. I remember being able to buy Superdrol for $20 a bottle online, and that thing will make you shit out your liver if you use it for longer than 6 weeks. It did however pack on a ridiculous amount of muscle in a very short period of time - on a mg per mg basis, it is more powerful than Anadrol.

Where can you get ephedrine? And it may be a dumb question, but how safe is it?

I've used ephedra based fat burners in the past with varying degrees of success.
 
Super Nos blast is cheap body fortress but it works. It has agmatine sulfate. Gives a major pump or boner whichever you like. Nitric oxide booster preworkouts are the most effective. Its because when you get a bigger pump u end up building more muscle.
 
Where can you get ephedrine? And it may be a dumb question, but how safe is it?

I've used ephedra based fat burners in the past with varying degrees of success.
Bronkaid. I don't do it no more so I don't care if everybody gets wise to this and they make it illegal. Btc. U have to sign something cuz they don't want anyone buying a million boxes for meth production.
 
Creatine works

Fish/Kril Oil helps

BCAAs are good for when you are fasting and trying to maintain muscle
 
I buy from 18x series nutrition because

1. every ingredient is listed there is no secret ' blend '

2. a percentage of the profits go to the Green Beret Foundation ( and that makes me feel good )

Also, their preworkout is great for everything from endurance ( running / biking ) to weight lifting.



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Yeah...I was the guy dropping 3 bills at gnc and vitamin outlet in my single days then I did some cursory research on All this crap I was taking to get bigger stronger faster.

And realized that the only supplements that work are whiskey viagra and dianabol.

I put all that in my nutri bullet twice a day and now I feel great.
 
I don't think there is a question that vitamin c and fish oils work.

They work the point is many of these supplement company are not giving you legit stuff, many are using fillers and questionable product.

Its like wild west, unless we get a bottle and test them in a lab we will never know if that fifty dollar tub contains what it says or the amount.
 
Hell yeah!!
For me:
Squat: 325lbs
Dead Lift: 420lbs
Bench: 270lbs :(

That was around 190 lbs bw though

Now I'm much fatter and not as strong. :( ..for now.
What's your military press numbers? Real.
 
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