success rate of wwe wrestlers who tried mma

[Dead Kennedy]

With wins over who exactly? No one worth a fuck that's who. Anyone can look good against inferior opponents.

 

[listrahtes]

Never compare japanese pro wrestling and american based. Two completely different areas. Just watch an old Sakuraba wrestling match.

They legit trained submission offense /defense and throws. More like a combination of catch wrestling and judo that was trained to fight but shown in a orchestrated sequence.

Take japanese pro wrestling like a show fight between two professional boxers were they use all tecniques without injuring the opponent and make it spectacular. Japanese pro wrestlers were legit fighters from the start and trained like that.

 

[BarkTheSilentBrawler]

Never compare japanese pro wrestling and american based. Two completely different areas. Just watch an old Sakuraba wrestling match.

They legit trained submission offense /defense and throws. More like a combination of catch wrestling and judo that was trained to fight but shown in a orchestrated sequence.

Take japanese pro wrestling like a show fight between two professional boxers were they use all tecniques without injuring the opponent and make it spectacular. Japanese pro wrestlers were legit fighters from the start and trained like that.

No, no they weren't or else we would've seen more japanese champions early in mma. How many of those wrestlers did any actual fighting? They're as legit as bruce lee. They pretended to be real just like american/ european wrestling, but since they pretended slightly harder they were legit right? I'm sorry, but japanese wrestling has produced the same amount of actual mma fighters as american wrestling entertainment, if not less. To say that they all have some kind of fighting background is to say that stallone has a boxing background because he threw and slipped fake punches.

 

[listrahtes]

No, no they weren't or else we would've seen more japanese champions early in mma. How many of those wrestlers did any actual fighting? They're as legit as bruce lee. They pretended to be real just like american/ european wrestling, but since they pretended slightly harder they were legit right? I'm sorry, but japanese wrestling has produced the same amount of actual mma fighters as american wrestling entertainment, if not less. To say that they all have some kind of fighting background is to say that stallone has a boxing background because he threw and slipped fake punches.

American Wrestling Entertainment has produced exactly zero legit MMA fighters. All that did cross over (please dont mention CM Punk) learned real wrestling in high school / college and that is definitely legit.

Comparing Sakuraba (an alltime great MMA fighter) to a laughable ma actor without any fight credibility is quite the stretch but obvious you dont want to research the topic. There were quite some cross overs from japanese pro wrestling.

 

[BarkTheSilentBrawler]

American Wrestling Entertainment has produced exactly zero legit MMA fighters. All that did cross over (please dont mention CM Punk) learned real wrestling in high school / college and that is definitely legit.

Comparing Sakuraba (an alltime great MMA fighter) to a laughable ma actor without any fight credibility is quite the stretch but obvious you dont want to research the topic. There were quite some cross overs from japanese pro wrestling.

You're one of THOSE people huh?
You can literally go to Sakuraba's wikipedia page and see that he had a major stand out amature wrestling career, before he did the phony stuff you're claiming made him a great fighter. WHO doesn't want to research the topic again? Exactly. Feel free to name those unsuccessful Japanese wrestlers who also had amature wrestling backgrounds too, if you want. Like I said, not legit.

 

[revoltub]

I don't even remember this

 

[Steve-French]

A lot of MMA fans fail to realize that MMA as we have it today is basically pro wrestling's little brother. I'll put the reasoning in a spoiler tag as it's a few paragraphs long...

Spoiler: How Pro Wrestling Spawned MMA

It all goes back to Karl Gotch and Billy Robinson, who trained together in old school catch wrestling, both went their different ways in the pro wrestling world and ultimately both of them ended up in Japan training pro wrestlers.

Gotch trained Yoshiaki Fujiwara, who trained Suzuki and Funaki, who recruited and trained Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Rutten, going on to found Pancrase. Robinson would train most of the UWFI wrestlers that would go on to become Pride.

Then I don't think a lot of modern fans really understand the influence that Rings had on Pride. Pride basically swallowed up Rings, took their best fighters(Fedor, Overeem, etc), stole their ideas, then put them out of business in 2002, right around the time that Pride really started to kick ass.

The guy who founded Rings, Akira Maeda is connected to Takada, Fujiwara, and Tiger Mask. Those four guys all came out of the same dojo and basically laid the groundwork for what MMA would become. Their bidding war over Rickson Gracie would basically shape the history of MMA.

If you take away pro wrestling's direct influence on MMA history, you take away Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Suzuki, Funaki, Frank Shamrock, Bas Rutten, Sakuraba, Takada, Fedor, Pancrase, Pride, Rings, Shooto never happens.

I think it's safe to say that maybe MMA never happens, especially when you consider the influence that pro wrestling had on Mitsuyo Maeda, who taught the Gracies how to grapple. Maeda was living in a YMCA in Alabama at one point during his travels, learning tricks of the trade from the pro wrestlers he befriended in the 1900's.

He basically taught the Gracie's Judo with some old school pro wrestling tricks and submissions worked into it. I mean, if you take all of that away, what does that leave MMA? It would have basically been just a toughman contest, it would have died an early death, if it even would have happened at all.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

If they were recruited from some type of amateur wrestling system, like Brawk and Lashley, then sure, they will do alright. However, there are the athlete wrestlers and the CM Punk's, the guys who are supposed to represent the every day Joe (kinda like how porn has monster hogs and regular joes too, fr whatever your fancy).

MMA is too high level now for non athlete/martial artists to pick it up later and have success, just via way of toughness.