Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by executionermma, Dec 6, 2018.
Joanna is probably getting beat down by shevchenko and then she wont even be in the discussion
That's some kind of convoluted logic there, man. JJ went through everyone in the top 5 while Rose didn't have to win against any of them and that's matchmaking that benefits JJ?
I get that Rose got a title shot by default but she was protected by the UFC. They've given her preferential matchups since her loss to Esparza and she even lost one of those against Karolina. Three of the top 5, Karolina, Andrade, Gadelha have all had to fight one another while poor, sensitive, "thug" Rose now gets to take a year off.
Minor tweak, but you nailed it.
And gets killed by Suarez
I'm not basing the fight on cuts. But I--like judges everywhere--do not count a leg kick the same as I do a head shot; particularly when comparing an ineffective leg kick to a power shot that wobbles an opponent. Not only that, but while visible damage was not part of early unified rules, it's been incorporated into scoring in the last 4 years. Go back and watch a fight from 15 years ago, they talk about effective striking, effective grappling, and octogon control...and that's it. But in contemporary fights, they talk about visible damage in the preamble.
You may not like it, but that's the way fights are scored. Universally.
Leg kicks count. They just don't count as much, unless they effect the outcome of the fight...this wasn't anything like Jose Aldo putting Faber on crutches for a week, these were pecking shots that couldn't even prevent Rose launching a clinch trip as though she was facing a clown.
There's reason why impact is mentioned in unified rules not damage. Sure it can be seen as visible damage, but also as using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponents’ energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. I had this conversation about these rules in the past. Sorry but if there was almost 2-1 difference in striking 138 to 82 according UFC site first day after the fight, then I'm not really sure some closing eye and blood from nose can define 5 rounds of fight, especially with this kind of difference and when oponnent has visible damage,ht I'ts not only my opinion, GPS's coach also said, that judges ignored low kicks in this fight.
And worst thing if you follow unified rules you could seen JJ as winner of last takedown, because it was leading to JJ under Rose but JJ was doing damage not Rose.
I understand if striking is even you can look at things like bruises etc. still not really fair, because some people will get bruises easier based on number of fights, genes etc. and it's just retarded to follow this rule if you got whiteskinned guy vs blackskinned guy, but like I said if striking is even no problem for me, but in this gap was preety significant. Like I said aura from first fight helped Rose in this fight, because at the end of the day they are strawweights, there's almost no power, or ko' without accumulation is almost impossible. Even Andrade/Kowalkiewicz Kowalkiewicz was tagged like 30-40 times in less than 2 minutes and then was KO'd.
I've seen one photo with Rose and her 2 belts day after fight, and she was looking like Chinese or someone day after drinking few bottles of some bad vodka. So pretty much possible she was on crutches also.
Joanna is delusional, Rose has her number and will beat her every time.
"I beat all of them, I beat all of them (except Rose, who smashed me, twice, back-to-back, sob, sob)".
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BRUISES. I WAS NEVER TALKING ABOUT BRUISES.
you seem to have this thing where you ignore the points someone says if they don't fit in with your worldview, and you put words in their mouth that do. That's not debate. That's masturbation.
I've said repeatedly that I was talking impact. As in Rose, impacting JJs face and wobbling her several times.
I'm not discounting leg kicks. I'm saying they don't count the same as getting punched in the face unless said leg kick drops a fighter to the fucking mat.
Talk all that trash then tap to strikes
Plus Rose is hotter with a shaved head
Will this c u next tuesday stfu?
why the hell hasn't rose fought since fighting Joanna? What's going on with her? she either should defend or be stripped...
Less wmma fights is a good thing.
She's shook. Joanna closed the gap too close in that 2nd fight.
But Rose beat her . . .
Some believe this.
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