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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Pierced7681, May 15, 2018.
Yeah, but let's compare Fedor and Stipe's 27 fight undefeated streaks.
... which he got from Cain Velasquez who hadn't fought in 2 years.
When has Werdum ever looked as good, as complete and as sharp as he did against Cain? The answer is never. The best version of Werdum that we have ever seen beat up Cain Velasquez immediately preceding the stipe fight.
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Fedor can compete on numbers alone but even he doesn't have the same quality wins in a streak. Werdum has unbelievable wins, but he's never gone on a streak like Stipe.
The other two are silly to compare.
Stipe is in his own league in terms of quality streaks at heavyweight
He still can't fight on the ground.
And his striking is less dangerous than it was when he wasn't like 45 years old.
Cain that hadn't fought in 2 years..
Yes he does.
The same sherdoggers writing off moicic are the same ones who probably think Cain is top 3 of all time at HW, absolute joke, moicic record is absolutely impressive, all finishes too, he's already the greatest ufc HW ever, if he beats DC he' i th tal of greatest HW of all time.
Absolutely positively not. Not even a question. Mirko, Noguiera and Arlovski are far and away the best wins. It's hard to argue any single one of those as better wins than Overeem, Werdum or JDS... even at the time that Stipe beat them
and???? It's still easily Werdum's best performance, most complete performance and best win of his career. Easily.
hunt was NOT green at all, the guy was a K1 elite level striker even back then.
Contextually, yes it is very easy to argue exactly that. Fedor didn't fight them when they were all 40 and had been knocked out a dozen times.
Two year lay-off Cain is far and away Werdum's best win? Get the fuck outta here lmao Everyone knows the biggest pinnacle of Werdum's career was being the guy that dethroned Fedor.
"The other two are silly to compare."
U shouldnt post things like that. You´re exposin´yourself, Im afraid.
He's the same fighter now that he was then... so, are you saying Hunt is still green?
Will we ever see a "post green Hunto?"
Yes... contextually, it's far and away Werdum's best win and easily his performance.
ill post whatever is true. You cannot compare Noguiera or JDS to Stipe as far as resumes go.
Did u watch Big Nog´s early fights in RIngs, for instance?
No, contextually, it's not.
But you'll nuthug over Stipe any way you can lol
Nog has far better wins than Stipe does.
Stipe has the Jon Jones thing going where on paper, his resume looks amazing and is full of legends and big names. In reality, like Jones, he's beating them all when they are in the twilight of their career. He doesn't have a win over a single guy in their prime.
If this was 2010 and he had those names, it would be super impressive. In 2018, it's just a resume full of old guys. It's not his fault, it's just the state of the HW division.
Beat a hype job and a bunch of has beens Post USADA
Cain was gassed due to elevation, Werdum had already been there, training and getting used to fighting at elevation. Sea Level Cain is the best heavyweight of this decade IMO and he would've ran through Werdum had he been 100%.