The movie gave me no feeling that there was still a bunch of ships with a bunch of troops still laying around. They brought their big, main ship out that had their ultimate leader on it...and the leader was killed, and that ship got jacked up. When your leader is killed and his ship goes down , that's usually the end of your army.
From what i was watching, it looked like they brought their whole force down to pursue and finish the rebels. I think you're giving the movie way too much leeway. Focusing on one line where a character says "a" instead of "the" is really, really reaching. What was actually shown on the screen did not lead me to believe there was a still a lot of either sides forces still around. Both sides generals were there, that looked like endgame to me
Actually that thing about there being another dreadnaught was an argument presented by one of you resistors. They were making a point to me that it was obvious that the First Order had more military & so my information about the 30 Star Destroyers they have was worthless.. lol... So he argued the fact that there was obviously at least one more dreadnaught... which somehow in his mind is equal to my information.... lol....
That said.... I think you are completely ignoring what I said about all the star Destroyers not being destroyed in that impact... & you don't need anything but the movie to prove it. That Raddus impact only ripped through one area. The other Star destroyers were not in a perfect line behind that exact spot... lol... Please tell me you are not going to argue that. Here's a picture from the movie.
You can not only see that all the star destroyers were not directly behind that spot... but most of them are also flying a significant distance under the Supremacy.
In the next picture you can not only see that but you can very easily see 2 star Destroyers way way over there to the right. The supremacy is 30 miles long. That little blue light you see on the left is the Raddus just as it impacted the Supremacy. So those 2 star Destroyers on the far right are at least 10 miles away from the impact. Those 2 on the far left are around 7 miles from impact... so it's safe to say that you have 4 star destroyers that are in tact. If anything some debris bounced off of them or something causing very minor damage if any.
Each Star Destroyer has 70,000 people & 144 tie fighters on it.
x4 that means that the First Order has an absolute minimum of 280,000 people & 576 Tie Fighters.
You can also see from the movie that at least 15 - 20 miles of the Supremacy was un-damaged, so however many people were over there... & how ever much equipment & tie fighters were in there will be added to the military.
& that is all assuming that those other 6 Star Destroyers were all just completely annihilated... which I find very unlikely.
but all of this is just to appease your insistence that outside canon can't be discussed. Because the actual fact is that the entire miliary of the First order had 30 of those Star Destroyers & only 10 of them were present in this movie... So adding onto the miliary we know survived the impact from the Raddus is 20 more star Destroyers which hold a combined total of 1,400,000 people & 2,880 Tie fighters.
What was the point of making the actual guy they were looking for not available, and replacing him with another random guy?
Irrelevant. It neither enhances the story nor kills it. I will digress that Maz should not had made such a big deal out of the limited amount of people who could do it.... but again, that's a minor thing & so what. Fact is they spent about 5 seconds of the movie with them noticing that dude with the flower... & that's it. So I'm not sure what you're talking about with that being a big time waster.
The way they showed Finn being in awe of the place was very important to Finn's character development because when Rose showed him the ugly side of Canto Bight & the slaver & child abuse, you get a feel for how Finn will eventually go from someone who just wants to save his friend Rey... to really understanding the value of the Rebels & making a switch to being a full on member. Now in the next movie, we will understand why Finn stays instead of going back to wanting to run away. it's also important for us the viewers to understand why the Rebels & the New Republic are the good guys. They are trying to get rid of that corruption & abuse. It's clear who the movie wants us to view as the bad guys... but it's only in scenes like that where we as the audience can agree that yes, that's f*cked up & I want the people trying to change that to win.
I didn't need new characters, but they did introduce new characters without giving them any depth, and without giving their old characters any either. I don't care about any of these characters because they don't express what they want, or much of their personality. They are just reacting to events around them. 2 movies in, I should have a firm grasp on who these main characters are and what they're about. There isn't a single memorable line, or thing anyone of these guys have said or done in 2 movies.
I disagree. I see tremendous growth & character development in almost all the main characters that they introduced. As mentioned above.... Finn's journey is a parallel to why the viewing audience understands who the bad guys are & his slow but steady switch from being a storm trooper to joining the rebels explains that perfectly.
We know a lot about Kylo. I really don't get anyone who says he's under explained. I will admit we don't know what he's going to do with the first order, but it's only been about a half a day since he was in charge... & so we gotta wait for the final act for that answer, but we know a lot about him other than that. Like deep psychological stuff that run him from behind the scenes. I'm not sure what more you could want.
Same with Rey. We got to see what was mind fooking her & driving her this whole time, & when you see her give up on that in a therapeutic chat with the villain you see a character who is now been made free of that having power over her. She's got a tremendous backstory having to become an elite staff fighter to survive & learn about ship mechanics by being a scrapper for a living... & now the force awakens in her & she has to figurre it all out. It's a fascinating story.
I have nothing to look forward to because i don't care about any of these cardboard people
Well I & a lot of people disagree.
I mean, I could go on... but I just keep getting the feeling you don't really want to hear any of it. maybe you're happier chatting with people who just want to sh*t on everything & agree with you that it sux yeah?