Spiked Magazine's Unsafe Space Tour Debate Panel: "Identity Politics: The New Racialism on Campus?"

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  1. Trotsky

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    Ahh, yes, we should handle idiots with kid gloves and coddle them while they make uninformed decisions that screw us all, on the basis that, if we try to reason with them or aptly characterize them as irrational, they will then turn around and blame our condescension for them making the uninformed decision we sought to prevent.

    There are plenty of unintelligent people who had the personal virtue and sensibility not to vote for this idiot out of some misplaced sense anti-intellectual spite. The idea that morons can blame sensible people calling them morons (in an apt characterization of them voting for morons) for the decision that those morons made when they voted in morons is in itself moronic.
     
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    A Very Serious Cat The Burrito Hunter

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    That's a lot of words to effectively repeat "we smart they dumb"

    The point is if you generalise entire groups of society as racist moron don't be surprised when they don't vote for who you want. Hilary calls a bunch of people deplorables and then people wonder why they don't vote for her?
     
  3. Trotsky

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    This again is false justification nonsense. It provides supporters of any irrational, nonsensical, or downright suicidal policy or figure a guaranteed justification: either they weren't sufficiently forewarned, or their hands were forced by people shaming them for their initial impulse to support.

    Also, I don't think, nor did I say, that all Trump supporters are "racist morons." Trump is a racist moron. His supporters are a collection of racists and morons, and I would assume that the majority only occupy one group.
     
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    Doesn't change the fact that beittiling a large chunk of the voting population isn't a great way to win an election. Which is my point. Maybe try offering them some reason to vote for you rather than taking shit. I'm not even American and even I can see that is what happened.

    Oh and Im sorry "we smart they dumb or racist"
     
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    machidafan99 Silver Belt

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  6. Trotsky

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    Oh, trust me, we tried. For the better part of two years we tried.

    No hard feelings
     
  7. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    The entire panel is from the Left, but clearly of the rational and sane variety and not the Berkeley/Evergreen type.

    The British guy with the beard actually described most political debates in the WR to a tee.

    Actually, it's kinda amusing watching them describe how Hillary voters generalize all Trump voters, then see the response from @Trotsky, LOL.
     
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    Progressive extremism is just so gross.

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    The thing that sticks in my craw is how often people stare at me shocked when I say I don't vote blue... it's like they see I'm semi brown and assume I vote for shills like Killary.

    THAT shit pisses me off to no end.
     
  10. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    As it turns out, the organizers of this excellent debate panel are actually on a tour to multiple U.S campuses to discuss various "unsafe" topics, with special guests at each stop.

    This is how people should engage in their dialogues, rather than shouting down everyone and think they are better than everyone.

    PS: You can go ahead and delete all the off-topic shit from people who clearly didn't even open the vid nor have any intention on discussing any of the points brought up by the panel, before they can derail this thread.
     
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    Why is a construction worker fixing other people's car?
     
  12. Viva

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    Correct.

    I think there were so many elements to Trump's victory, it's hard to say what truly won him the election. Whether it be PC culture, his stance of immigration, Hillary's corruption, or people growing tired of smug liberals, it's honestly hard to say.
     
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    Pretty damn good discussion/video. Breath of fresh air
     
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    Speech is not violence
     
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    That's pretty much what I got from it.

    He can dress it up all he likes, but ultimately it's just more partisan shit flinging, that is a bit overdone at this point.
     
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    This is exactly right, People can give their intellectual arguments for why he won.But 30-35 percent of the voters rallied behind him after those statements, it is all about fear and xenophobia and it Always was.
     
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    How is political correctness a problem in and of itself?
     
  18. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    How are you seriously still asking that after watching this panel? o_O
     
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    How is placing restrictions on discourse not a problem in and of itself?
     
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    It's not, though. Empty, identity-obsessed voters like you are jokes to persons with adult minds: dangerous, democratically cancerous jokes, but jokes nonetheless.

    If we were dealing with supporters of conservatives past, even the most vapid (Reagan, Romney) or goofy (Bush II), there would still be rational, reconcilable policy bases on which they could hedge themselves and by which the rest of us could say, "you know what, they may have their reasons." Those days are no more.

    And, frankly, I don't even know if you voted for Trump, but you regardless perfectly epitomize the anti-pragmatic vanguard that made him possible.
     

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