South Korea Engulfed in Political Chaos: Ousted President Gets 24 Years In Prison For Corruption

Are you sure its I that jumps in with personal attacks and not you deflecting your own behavior onto others? Just look at your posts on this page alone.
You keep on, and so shall I. Who comments on who all the time? You do. I don't quote you ever, but you love me so much that you just cannot resist. I'm your lovely poison baby
 
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You keep on, and so shall I. Who comments on who all the time? You do. I don't quite you ever, but you love me so much that you just cannot resist. I'm your lovely poison baby
Thats funny. Why are you even in this thread? You came to critcise me remember?
 
Thats funny. Why are you even in this thread? You came to critcise me remember?
Nope. Came to read others comments. Lol at following you. I don't quote you either until you decide you need some of my love, and start quoting me.

You don't have to stop though. I got more than enough for you, love.
 
Nope. Came to read others comments. Lol at following you. I don't quote you either until you decide you need some of my love, and start quoting me.

You don't have to stop though. I got more than enough for you, love.
You sound so messed up like you actually enjoy this.:eek:
 
South Korea's long history of light sentences for business leaders
by Sherisse Pham
January 17, 2017

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The heir to the Samsung empire is facing possible arrest over corruption allegations. But if history is anything to go by, criminal charges won't keep him away from the company for too long, if at all.

A judge will decide Wednesday whether to issue an arrest warrant for Lee Jae-yong, the de facto chief of Samsung who prosecutors say is a key player in a massive corruption scandal that has rocked South Korea.

Lee, who denies the allegations, isn't the first top South Korean business leader to face accusations of corruption. And he probably won't be the last.

His father, Samsung Group Chairman Lee Kun-hee, was convicted twice -- and pardoned twice.

Other chiefs of the giant family-run conglomerates that dominate the South Korean economy -- known as "chaebol" -- have also been found guilty of criminal wrongdoing and then gone back to running their businesses.

Analysts say the trading of favors, bribes and political influence between politicians and businessmen is practically endemic in the country. But the sheer scale of the current political scandal that has engulfed Samsung and other chaebols is different from the individual cases they've faced in the past.

"Now, it's a big scandal for the nation," said Steve Chung, an expert on South Korean society at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. The political crisis has led to vast street protests and a vote by lawmakers to impeach President Park Geun-hye.

The secretive chaebols are sprawling, multinational empires that account for a big chunk South Korea's economy. They have a long history of criminal charges with limited consequences.

Here are some of the major cases:

Samsung chairman's 2 pardons

Lee Kun-hee, the Samsung Group chairman, was convicted in 1996 of bribing politicians and sentenced to two years in prison. The prison sentence was overturned and he was pardoned the following year.

In 2008, he was convicted of tax evasion, but the three-year prison sentence was suspended and he was ordered to pay 110 billion won ($93 million) instead. In 2009, Lee received another presidential pardon.

The chairmen of Hyundai Motors, SK and Hanwha have also been convicted of crimes over the years. But they avoided lengthy prison terms, receiving suspended sentences and paying heavy fines instead.

Landmark decision overturned

Even if chaebol chiefs spend time behind bars, it doesn't necessarily put an end to their wealth and power.

In 2012, a South Korean court jailed Hanwha Group Chairman Kim Seung-youn for embezzlement, a decision that at the time was praised for breaking the pattern of lenient treatment for convicted chaebol bosses.

But Kim served just a few months in prison. The sentence was overturned in 2013 -- and the landmark court decision itself was overturned the following year.

Kim remains chairman of Hanwha and is currently listed as the 47th richest man in South Korea, according to Forbes.

Managing from behind bars

SK chairman Chey Tae-won was convicted of embezzlement in 2013and spent about two years in prison, one of the longest sentences served by a chaebol leader.

But Chey continued to oversee the SK empire from behind bars, receiving more than 1,700 visitors, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Chey was eventually pardoned in 2015 and reinstated as SK Group chairman last March.

'Nut rage'

Finally, let's not forget the 'nut rage' scandal of 2014, which trained worldwide attention on the behavior of one particular chaebol scion.

Cho Hyun-ah -- the vice president and heiress of Korean Air, which is owned by chaebol Hanjin Group -- flew into a rage and abused cabin crew staff over how she was served nuts on a flight.

Cho was found guilty of violating aviation law and sentenced to one year in prison. An appeals court suspended her sentence after she served just five months.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/17/investing/south-korea-chaebol-culture-corruption/

These companies are Korea's version of "too big to fail." They're largely family run, and these families' connections run super deep. Usually when the chairpersons go to jail, it's only because they were too busted to have a flunky take the fall for them.
 
Samsung chief Lee arrested as South Korean corruption probe deepens
By Hyunjoo Jin and Joyce Lee | SEOUL
Feb 17, 2017​

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Samsung Group chief Jay Y. Lee was arrested early on Friday over his alleged role in a corruption scandal rocking the highest levels of power in South Korea, dealing a fresh blow to the world's biggest maker of smartphones and memory chips.

The 48-year-old Lee, scion of the country's richest family, was taken into custody at the Seoul Detention Centre after waiting there overnight for the decision. He was being held in a single cell with a TV and desk, a jail official said.

Lee is a suspect in the influence-peddling scandal that led parliament to impeach President Park Geun-hye in December, a decision that if upheld by the Constitutional Court would make her the country's first democratically elected leader forced from office.

Shares in flagship Samsung Electronics Co Ltd fell 1.1 percent, while shares in Samsung C&T Corp, the de facto holding company of Samsung Group, were down 2.8 percent compared with the wider market's drop of 0.2 percent.

Prosecutors have up to 10 days to indict Lee, Samsung's third-generation leader, although they can seek an extension. After indictment, a court would be required to make a ruling within three months.

No decision had been made on whether Lee's arrest would be contested or whether bail would be sought, a spokeswoman for Samsung Group [SARG.UL] said.

Samsung and Lee have denied wrongdoing in the case.

"We will do our best to ensure that the truth is revealed in future court proceedings," the Samsung Group said in a brief statement after Lee's arrest.

The same court had rejected a request last month to arrest Lee, but prosecutors on Tuesday brought additional accusations against Lee, seeking his arrest on bribery and other charges.

"We acknowledge the cause and necessity of the arrest," a judge said in his ruling.

The judge rejected the prosecution's request to arrest Samsung Electronics president Park Sang-jin.

SENSITIVE TIME

While Lee's detention is not expected to hamper day-to-day operation of Samsung firms, which are run by professional managers, experts said it could hinder strategic decision-making at South Korea's biggest conglomerate, or chaebol.

Samsung has been in the midst of an ongoing restructuring to clear a succession path for Lee to assume control after his father was incapacitated by a heart attack in 2014.

Decisions that could be complicated by Lee's arrest include deliberations over whether to reorganize the group under a holding company structure, as well as its plan to abandon its future strategy office, a central decision-making body that came in for criticism during the scandal.

Staff moves have also been in limbo. Samsung, which employs around half a million people, has yet to announce annual personnel promotions and changes, which it typically does in December.

One employee at Samsung Electronics’ chip division said colleagues were unsettled that prosecutors had singled-out Samsung.

"The mood is that people are worried," said the employee.

However, another Samsung Electronics employee described the situation as business as usual.

"It wouldn't make sense for a company of that size to not function properly just because the owner is away."

Both declined to be identified, given the sensitivity of the matter.

Lee's incarceration comes as Samsung Electronics tries to get past the disastrous rollout last year of its Galaxy Note 7 smartphones, which were prone to fires. It is under pressure for the upcoming launch of its next flagship phone, the Galaxy S8, to be a success.

Major business groups criticized the decision, worried about the impact on Samsung.

"A management vacuum at Samsung, a global company representing the Republic of Korea, will increase uncertainty and undermine global confidence, posing a big burden on the already struggling economy," the Korea Employers Federation said.

ZEROING-IN

Lee's arrest gives a boost to prosecutors who have zeroed-in on Samsung Group to build their case against President Park and her close friend Choi Soon-sil, who is in detention and faces charges of abuse of power and attempted fraud.

Both Park and Choi have denied wrongdoing.

Prosecutors have focused on Samsung's relationship with Park, 65, accusing the group of paying bribes totaling 43 billion won ($37.74 million) to organizations linked to Choi to secure government backing for the controversial 2015 merger of two Samsung units, a deal that was seen as key to smoothing Lee's succession.

If parliament's impeachment is upheld, an election would be held in two months. In the meantime, Park remains in office but stripped of her powers.

Her would-be successors praised the decision to arrest Lee.

"We hope it marks a beginning to end our society's evil practice of cozy ties between government and corporations and move toward a fair country," said Kim Kyoung-soo, a spokesman for Moon Jae-in, a member of the liberal opposition Democratic Party who is leading opinion polls in the presidential race.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-politics-samsung-group-idUSKBN15V2RD
 
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This is pretty spot on. This is essentially how power politics works in korea. Briebery and corruption is not shocking at all. Its still a common way of conducting business relationships. Its anaylizes correctly that korean people are much less concerned about corruption and more concerned with the fact its not self serving but that shes being controlled by a spirtual kackery.

The current debacle to come of the unraveling is the controversy that Ms President was getting her hair done while the ferry was sinking and didnt leave immedately to address the crisis until her hair was done. Such a sad closure to the legacy her father built. We were so hopeful that her term would be like having her father in the Presidency once again.

nepotism is a pain in the ass when done improperly.
 
Isn't that a standard allegation told by the far right wing groups in Korea?
Yes, dating all the way back to the Syngman Rhee administration. Park Chung Hee himself was arrested and charged with communist activities.
 
Yes, dating all the way back to the Syngman Rhee administration. Park Chung Hee himself was arrested and charged with communist activities.
Before you talk did you even consider the policies of this mans political party and once in how unpopular liberal presidents have been? Any correlation to rising hostilities by North Korea when a pro commie Liberal government takes helm? None of that right? Just opened the mouth first.
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No my hatred for him comes based on Roh's Presidency.

Even though they were friends he seems to be more experienced in diplomacy than Roh. They are not linked by blood as so many koreans value so he is his own man. Is he worse than the current president Park?
 
Before you talk did you even consider the policies of this mans political party and once in how unpopular liberal presidents have been? Any correlation to rising hostilities by North Korea when a pro commie Liberal government takes helm? None of that right? Just opened the mouth first.
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i didn't say anything that was inaccurate in my two sentence post.
 
Even though they were friends he seems to be more experienced in diplomacy than Roh. They are not linked by blood as so many koreans value so he is his own man. Is he worse than the current president Park?

They were more than just friends he was Rohs Chief of staff and share the same backward policies on North Korea and economy. Moon is North Korean and believe its more important to maintain diplomacy with North Korea with intention of reunifying than with United States who they see as a nosey third party. One of his campaign promises is to visit Kim in Pyongyang before meeting Trump.

Roh was the exact same way and you saw hostilities from North Korea increase when Roh took government.
 
This whole scandal is a real shit show. I have to admit I didn't know much about S.Korea before this other than "muh economic miracle".

Kind of dampened my impression of S.Korea tbh. Still a great success story and better place to live than most of the world I bet but the image of a pristine futuristic cosmopolitan state was cracked a bit.
 
This whole scandal is a real shit show. I have to admit I didn't know much about S.Korea before this other than "muh economic miracle".

Kind of dampened my impression of S.Korea tbh. Still a great success story and better place to live than most of the world I bet but the image of a pristine futuristic cosmopolitan state was cracked a bit.
That's all of asia dude, corrupt assholes.

I bet she had the second biggest collection of rhino horn or tiger penis in the world.

Not b/c she needed or wanted it, or less the fact that it's all fufu crap, but a rhino horn in itself is a commodity.
 
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