South Africa Votes to Confiscate White Minority's Land Without Compensation

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It's not like something like that has happened before...

Why are you crying about people you don't know living in a place you'll never visit?

White pride, I guess. Hooray for abject fear. Don't be upset

 

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I doubt white folk were doing most of the labor.

Or as big bill Heywood once famously quoted. "If one man has a dollar he didn't work for, then another man worked for a dollar he didn't get."

Aka theft.

They actually the original boer settlers whites did settle uninhabited land. It is not like founding of USA or Mexico which was heavy populated by natives.

These areas cape colony and even up to the orange river was not populated. Some native bushmen people these light skin colored blacks lived around orange river or north. They are the known as the San people or khosian look them up. They were genocide and wipe out by blacks north of them who much darker then them.

What chaned was the british conquered the white boer people and then expanded all land to make all what is south africa today. Then british opened there border and brought more bantu blacks in to work as low wage workers and manu blavks moved into south africa and it population exploded.

The whites who there fiest and settled unhabited land did not want to take all of africa or want to bring in black people in there community. If i not mistaken they did okay w8yu the San people.

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[woodguyatl]

Have you ever noticed how blacks have fucked up Detroit?

So whites made Africa great because they were in charge, but the whites who were in charge while Detroit failed are not responsible. You need to pick a narrative.

 

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[SammyPops]

Is wrong but not surprising. Probably should have happened the day after apartheid ended.

 

[Seaside]

Ok so us Mediterranean’s are not white now? Hahaha.

No. You are similar to moroccans and Tunisians and greeks.

 

[MiroHa]

Why are you crying about people you don't know living in a place you'll never visit?

White pride, I guess. Hooray for abject fear. Don't be upset

If I understood your previous post correctly you were amused by the possibility of famine if white farmers were driven out of SA. However this is a very probable result as it already happened in Zimbabwe.

 

[GOATER]

Did you see who was smashing HM stores in Africa recently?

So because some blacks did that....that means they all do, or most of them do.....nice logic.

 

[TheGreatA]

No surprise considering what was said by the current South African president, decades ago:

"In his brutal honesty, Ramaphosa told me of the ANC’s 25-year strategy to deal with the whites: it would be like boiling a frog alive, which is done by raising the temperature very slowly. Being cold-blooded, the frog does not notice the slow temperature increase, but if the temperature is raised suddenly, the frog will jump out of the water. He meant that the black majority would pass laws transferring wealth, land, and economic power from white to black slowly and incrementally, until the whites lost all they had gained in South Africa, but without taking too much from them at any given time to cause them to rebel or fight."

It appears that his plan has come to fruition. The whites in South Africa, no longer have any power to fight against the tyranny of the majority.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Any white person still living in South Africa is out of their mind.

Are they being offered asylum and refugee status? Seems like that would be appropriare, especially from Europe and the United States.. amazingly, even though they come from the area that has the highest rape #s, I suspect the rape numbers don't shoot up wherever the white south afrikaaners go. Hey, it's possible I'm wrong again.

 

[Broke Lester]

So because some blacks did that....that means they all do, or most of them do.....nice logic.

Who else does that kind of shit? Seriously, so if I get angry, that enitiles me to burn and smash shit and dance aimlessly on the streets? Fuck'n dumbasses burned down their own neighborhoods, but then again why shouldn't they, Whitey will build them new welfare homes to live in from all the taxes that blacks pay. Right?

 

[whougonnacall]

Any white person still living in South Africa is out of their mind.

Well aids will do that to you

 

[S-dot]

This is your question:



This is my answer: The Israelites. The are an example of a group using a historical grievance based on group identity to claim (or reclaim) territory.

Whether it was right or wrong depends on who the stronger party is (imo).

But that wasn't question you initially asked.

This is your question:



This is my answer: The Israelites. The are an example of a group using a historical grievance based on group identity to claim (or reclaim) territory.

Whether it was right or wrong depends on who the stronger party is (imo).

But that wasn't question you initially asked.

I wasn’t actually asking for an example I was just trying to dig in further to his opinion because he was saying a lot about white owned land. I wanted to know if the same would apply to land currently owned by any other races that took the land at some point in history from another race or other members of their own.

I’m just curious about the opinions of people who want to redistribute land in the way SA is proposing. Based on my (limited) knowledge of history/anthropology/genealogy I don’t see the logic nor practicality in it.

 

[Breakfast Bar]

It's a real shame that SA is moving in this direction IMO, especially since the timing of it looks like basic political cover for a decade plus of corrupt and ineffectual government that has stagnated a once promising economy. Countries that can shed their colonial past and keep open relations with the former land owners can be successful, multi-ethnic countries. Countries that continue to blame groups for failures generations later are going to end up with a corrupt, oppressive ruling class--not substantially different than the class-warfare advocates of socialism impose. Maybe it's morally appropriate to reciprocate past atrocities (I don't think so, but it's a plausible argument), but it certainly doesn't make for good economic policy or political stability.

 

[Rod1]

Read about it and its not finalized, sounds like a good way to shoot yourself in the foot.

 

[Broke Lester]

So because some blacks did that....that means they all do, or most of them do.....nice logic.

So because some whites are racist , all whites are? Because that is the general thought process of blacks, but we can ignore that, it's never their own fault that they are where they are.

 

[Hard To Tell]

Yes.

But Whites fucked up Africa far worse.

And by "fucked up" you mean create a thriving, first world civilization out of uninhabited bush land that other Africans flocked to because the level of prosperity and and standard of living was so great and like nothing the continent had ever seen. Yeah, evil whitey strikes again.

 

[Prutfis]

So because some blacks did that....that means they all do, or most of them do.....nice logic.

Strawmanning again I see. No wonder you are getting your shit pushed in.

 

[Victor Maitland]

South Africa will go down the same road as Zimbabwe..

we have already seen in Cape town , the chaos when the water supply ran out..
that is just the start .